Transcript: Katie Hobbs, Arizona gubernatorial candidate, on "Face the Nation, Oct. 9, 2022

The next is a transcript of an interview with Katie Hobbs, Democratic candidate for governor in Arizona, that aired on Sunday, Oct. 9, 2022.


MAJOR GARRETT: Now to Katie Hobbs, she is the Democratic nominee for governor and she or he's additionally in Phoenix this morning, Secretary Hobbs, good morning. Welcome to Face the Nation. So your opponent mentioned you do not need to debate. I might prefer to ask you: are there any circumstances underneath which you'd comply with debate Kari Lake, so the voters of Arizona may hear from the 2 of you, aspect by aspect and in actual time?

DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR AZ GOVERNOR KATIE HOBBS: Look, what I have been centered on is alternatives like this, the place they will see us again to again and listen to instantly from us concerning the points which are essential to Arizonans and the way we'd govern with out a circus like she created in the course of the GOP Republican major. I've no want to be an element of- of the spectacle that she's seeking to create. As a result of that does not do any service to the voters of Arizona to listen to from us, the place we stand on the problems and the way we'd govern.

MAJOR GARRETT: So generally voters study issues from moments of duress or problem or circus. Do not you assume you are robust sufficient to deal with any form of circus Kari Lake may current if in truth, she have been to current one? Do not the voters of Arizona should see that actual?

NOMINEE HOBBS: I believe the voters of Arizona have had an opportunity to see how I work underneath disaster all through my management in the course of the 2020 election as Secretary of State. Once we needed to fight a number of election challenges from- from former President Trump and his band of election deniers, together with my opponents Kari Lake.

MAJOR GARRETT: So I need to ask you about immigration. We had a protracted dialog with Kari Lake about that. Final evening you tweeted, "Arizona bears the brunt of the failures of US immigration insurance policies." Now by our depend, that's your second tweet in a month about immigration. Who particularly is answerable for this failure? And why solely now did you resolve to share that sentiment together with your Twitter followers?

NOMINEE HOBBS: Oh, that is definitely not the primary time that I've spoken out about immigration on this marketing campaign. We're a border state and immigration as it's a essential concern to Arizona border- voters. And as a border state, now we have borne the brunt of many years of inaction in Washington from each events to deal with each border safety and complete immigration reform. And- and we want the federal authorities to step up. However what I need to be actually clear about is that my opponent's positions on this concern are nothing however empty rhetoric. She's not providing actual options. When she talked about invoking the constitutional authority of the state. She's speaking about declaring an invasion at our southern border. That may do completely nothing to extend border safety, however it will carry untold ranges of chaos into our state. It is not an actual resolution. I've a border safety plan that is been endorsed by two border sheriffs as a result of they know that it may focus actual options and produce significant reduction and assist them make their communities safer.

MAJOR GARRETT: As a sensible matter, have been Arizonans safer underneath immigration insurance policies of the current administration or the one simply earlier than it?

NOMINEE HOBBS: Look, we have had a- a reasonably unhealthy immigration coverage for many years. We have to get complete immigration reform performed. And it is each events in Congress have been dragging their toes to- to get this performed.

MAJOR GARRETT: However, while you say there's a failure of present immigration coverage, that is a Biden administration failure, is it not by definition?

NOMINEE HOBBS: Look, Trump has centered his complete immigration coverage round ending the wall and it isn't performed. And- however Biden does must step up immigration and border safety. Completely. Arizona is bearing the brunt of- of unlawful drug trafficking, gun trafficking and smuggling. And we do want extra border safety. It is not going to get performed by declaring an invasion on the border or dismantling the F.B.I., which is one other factor that my opponent has known as for

MAJOR GARRETT: On the query of abortion, your opponent described you as one thing of an extremist, these are her phrases, not ours. Do you assist the present 15-week ban in Arizona? Or would you seek- search a distinct method? And is there every week restrict totally different than 15-weeks you might be in favor of? And in that case, why?

NOMINEE HOBBS: I do not assist the 15-week ban. However let me simply say that Kari Lake is- is completely misconstruing my place on this concern. You and I each know that late-term abortion is extraordinarily uncommon. And if it is being talked about, it is as a result of one thing has gone extremely improper in a being pregnant. A physician's not going to carry out an abortion late in a being pregnant simply because someone determined they need one. That's ridiculous. And he or she's saying this to distract from her extremely excessive place, which has– she's gone on the report saying she helps Arizona's full abortion ban that what- that's within the courts proper now being determined if that would be the regulation of Arizona or not. She's known as it an awesome regulation. She's known as individuals who search abortion murders and executioners. And- and underneath a Kari Lake administration, we'd have authorities mandated compelled births that danger ladies's lives. And- and her place is the one which acts that is excessive. It is out of contact where- with the place the vast majority of Arizonans are who assist entry to protected and authorized abortion. And underneath her administration, ladies wouldn't be protected.

MAJOR GARRETT: What would the Hobbs administration's week restrict be for abortion entry? If it isn't 15-weeks? What's it?

NOMINEE HOBBS: Look, abortion is a really private determination that belongs between a lady and her physician. The federal government and politicians do not belong in that call, we have to let medical doctors carry out the care that they're skilled and take an oath to- to carry out.

MAJOR GARRETT: So if an Arizona voter have been to conclude out of your earlier reply, that you don't favor any particular week restrict on abortion, would they be right?

NOMINEE HOBBS: I assist leaving the choice between a lady and her physician and leaving politicians completely out of it.

MAJOR GARRETT: Our polling additionally signifies that the economic system is essential to Arizona voters. And on that concern, each the economic system usually, inflation particularly, in response to our knowledge, you path your opponent. What's your method to inflation and the economic system in Arizona? And why is yours superior to that of your opponent?

NOMINEE HOBBS: Effectively, first, let me say I am the one candidate on this race who is just not a millionaire. My husband and I raised our youngsters by means of monetary ups and downs. And I do know the battle that loads of Arizonans are feeling proper now having to stretch to place meals on the desk interested by taking a second job, or not having the ability to pay the mortgage. And so now we have a complete plan to deal with the rising prices that Arizonans are going through proper now. That may put a refund of their pockets. We lower taxes on every kind of on a regular basis objects like over-the-counter treatment, college provides, diapers, female hygiene merchandise, we offer a child- a state degree baby tax credit score, and tax credit for individuals who need to return to work in larger paying jobs to get profession and technical training. Economists have checked out my affordability plan subsequent to Kari Lake's plan they usually mentioned that my plan does put individuals again to work and- and assist them battle inflation. And that Kari Lake's plan really will make inflation worse.

MAJOR GARRETT: Do you determine your self with the Biden financial administration- financial plans and inflation preventing plans? And in that case, would you advise the President to marketing campaign alongside your aspect in Arizona?

NOMINEE HOBBS: I am centered on the race right here in Arizona and the wants of Arizona and it is a race between myself and Kari Lake. And- and the- the concepts that we're bringing to the desk.

MAJOR GARRETT: And one- yet one more time earlier than we allow you to go as a result of I believe it's on the thoughts of Arizona voters. Are you saying, this morning, that there isn't a circumstance that you may envision or would even attempt to negotiate through which you and Kari Lake would seem at a debate collectively earlier than the election?

NOMINEE HOBBS: At this level within the race with 30 days to go. Our schedule in phrases of- of boards is just about set. And- and I am actually pleased with the place we're within the plans now we have to proceed speaking on to the voters of Arizona.

MAJOR GARRETT: Katie Hobbs, Secretary of State of Arizona, Democratic nominee for governor, thanks very a lot and we might be proper again with much more Face to Nation. We invite you to please stick with us.

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