On this "Face the Nation" broadcast, moderated by Margaret Brennan:
- Jen Easterly, director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Safety Company
- Rep. Tom Emmer, Republican from Minnesota
- David Becker, CBS Information election regulation contributor
- Rep. Sean Maloney, Democrat of New York
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MARGARET BRENNAN: Good morning, and welcome to Face the Nation.
Final week was a particularly troubling one in American politics. We now have simply eight days left till Election Day, and the nation is feeling deeply unsettled.
Our CBS Information Battleground Tracker ballot out this morning exhibits that a gorgeous 79 % -- that is practically eight in 10 possible voters -- say that the nation is uncontrolled. That is an ominous signal for the Democrats, who maintain energy in Washington. Of these 79 % anticipated to vote subsequent Tuesday, Republicans have a greater than 20-point benefit.
Two points, the well being of the financial system and the well being of American democracy, have taken middle stage on this marketing campaign, and it's the latter topic and the political rhetoric that might assist gas violence that's beneath recent scrutiny following Friday's assault on Paul Pelosi, the 82-year-old husband of Home Speaker Nancy Pelosi, at their dwelling in San Francisco.
CBS Information congressional correspondent Scott MacFarlane has extra.
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SCOTT MACFARLANE (voice-over): The day after the horrific assault, Home Speaker Nancy Pelosi expressed gratitude for regulation enforcement and her husband's medical group and stated she and her household have been heartbroken and traumatized by the life-threatening assault.
President Biden spoke with the Pelosis on Saturday.
JOE BIDEN (President of the US): Do not know for sure, nevertheless it seems to be like this was meant for Nancy. He stored asking: "The place's Nancy? The place's Nancy?"
SCOTT MACFARLANE: Forty-two-year-old David DePape will face a sequence of felony prices within the coming days, together with tried murder, accused of placing the 82-year-old Pelosi within the head a number of occasions with a hammer.
DePape's social media posts are saturated with conspiracy theories, Holocaust denial and claims of election fraud. Democrats argue Republicans should do extra to denounce the violence and finish the baseless claims that might gas threats.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: That is the issue. We will not simply say, I really feel badly in regards to the violence and we condemn it. Condemn what produces the violence. And this discuss produces the violence.
SCOTT MACFARLANE: The assault on Paul Pelosi is the newest in a rising wave of threats and plots in opposition to elected officers.
Capitol Police data obtained by CBS Information present practically 10,000 investigations into threats on members of Congress final yr.
Georgia Democratic Senator Raphael Warnock has spent closely on safety this election cycle.
Our Nikole Killion caught up with him on the marketing campaign path.
SENATOR RAPHAEL WARNOCK (D-Georgia): I am not naive in regards to the powerful second we're in. And there are people who find themselves attempting to stir that up for short- time period political achieve recreation. It is harmful stuff.
SCOTT MACFARLANE: In the meantime, an intelligence bulletin obtained by CBS Information warns of a heightened risk from home extremist teams on and after Election Day, not simply potential concentrating on of elected officers, however of elections directors, political rallies and of potential makes an attempt to intimidate voters or use claims of fraud to justify violence after the election, particularly in circumstances the place it takes further time to certify the outcomes.
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SCOTT MACFARLANE: Regardless of baseless claims of fraud, the 2020 election is taken into account essentially the most safe and profitable in U.S. historical past.
And voting to this point in 2022 has been secure and safe. Thus far, greater than 20 million individuals have voted early, and elections officers say they're being vigilant and coordinating with police, emphasizing, everybody ought to really feel secure popping out to vote -- Margaret.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Scott MacFarlane, thanks.
We go now to Jen Easterly, the director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Safety Company, often known as CISA. That is the Homeland Safety company tasked with securing America's cybersecurity infrastructure and coordinating with states on election safety.
And you are going to be very busy. I am glad you are right here with us right this moment.
JEN EASTERLY (Director, U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Safety Company): Nice to be right here.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I wish to ask you about this bulletin, first off.
It warns, home violent extremists could view election-related infrastructure, personnel and voters as enticing targets. Are you conscious of quick and credible threats?
DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: No.
Let me be very clear on the prime. We've no details about particular or credible threats to disrupt or compromise election infrastructure. I need that to be very clear. We're placing out info, just like the warnings that you just talked about, to ensure that state and native election officers have the data that they should defend their voting methods and their election infrastructure.
That stated, Margaret, it's a very advanced risk atmosphere. You have got cyber threats. You have got insider threats. You have got rampant disinformation. And, sure, very worryingly, you have got threats of harassment, intimidation and violence in opposition to election officers, polling locations and voters.
Let's be actually clear. That has to cease. It's unacceptable conduct. It is undemocratic. And all of us have to work collectively to make sure that this can be a secure and safe election.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And it's the states that administer the election. You might be offering assist to them.
What's the Election Day plan for safety after which communication? What are we going to listen to and see?
DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: So, on Election Day, truly, we at CISA are going to be in our personal operations middle.
We'll have federal authorities companions, non-public sector companions there, after which we will be in direct communication with the entire state and native election officers whose job it's to run and administer elections. We'll be working to share info, and we will be working to have the ability to reply to something that occurs.
However, keep in mind, on the finish of the day, the connection between native officers and native regulation enforcement is extremely vital. And I used to be actually inspired by the opinion piece that got here out yesterday with the sheriff in Massachusetts, one in Colorado, speaking about the truth that making certain election safety is a nonpartisan challenge, and threats to election officers must cease.
So, that connectivity on the native degree, the data sharing, the planning and exercising that is occurring is admittedly vital to making sure safety on the -- on the polling place and on the poll field.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We discuss rather a lot about rhetoric and the danger of triggering violence.
And social media is a spot the place false info usually spreads. So, I wish to ask you about what's occurring now at Twitter. It is now privately owned by billionaire Elon Musk. This morning, he tweeted a conspiracy concept about Nancy Pelosi's husband.
Given how charged the environment is, are you involved about how this platform would possibly change and that it will make your job tougher?
DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: Nicely, to begin with, horrific assault on Mr. Pelosi, and ideas and prayers go to their household.
That could be a resolution that social media firms, that Twitter will make. They make their very own choices, based mostly on phrases of service. I'm laser- targeted...
MARGARET BRENNAN: That is the proprietor himself tweeting this out.
DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: I'm laser-focused on the following 9 days and the time that comes after elections on doing all the pieces we are able to to make sure safety.
I do wish to be very clear on this, although, Margaret. These elections, election officers, these usually are not faceless backroom bureaucrats.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Proper.
DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: Proper?
These are our kinfolk, our associates, our neighbors. They're in our group. They're devoted public servants which are working day in and day trip to make sure the safety of elections. And so they deserve not simply our assist, however our admiration and respect. And so they should be secure. And all of us should be accountable about making certain that is a secure and safe atmosphere.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Which is why I am asking you in regards to the place the place these conspiracy theories unfold.
The FBI report, once we checked out it, by way of these direct threats to election employees, highlighted Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Nevada, and Wisconsin as locations the place voter intimidation and threats to election employees have been seen.
Are these areas of best concern for you?
DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: Involved throughout the board.
We've cyber threats from nation states and cyber criminals. You have got insider threats. You have got bodily threats, as we talked about, after which you have got disinformation, so, disinformation, overseas affect that can be utilized to sow discord, that may undermine confidence in election integrity and that can be utilized to incite violence.
So, what are we doing? We're doing a pair issues. Initially, we're placing out details about techniques and disinformation and methods to construct resilience in opposition to disinformation. We've a rumor vs.actuality web site that is principally election literacy.
However, most significantly, we're amplifying the voices of native and state election officers. They're the trusted voices that perceive how elections work. If anyone has questions on voting or what -- the way it all works, it is best to go to their native -- native election officers.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.
So, that is who they need to be following on Twitter and social media?
DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: These are the specialists.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Discover out who your native election official is and comply with their account?
DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: Precisely. Precisely.
And, you recognize, I ought to level out, the Nationwide Affiliation of Secretaries of State, NASS.org, TrustedInfo2022, a terrific supply for info, in addition to the Nationwide Affiliation of Election Administrators, NASED.org, steadily requested questions.
That is the most effective -- finest place to go. They understand how elections occur. For those who've seen one state in an election, you've got seen one state. It is truly surprisingly technical and sophisticated, and that is why I welcome individuals asking questions.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.
DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: You understand, the fantastic thing about democracy is that it is participatory. We will all have a task. So, volunteer, be a ballot employee, ask questions, the extra transparency, the higher.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Earlier than I allow you to go, I wish to ask you in regards to the overseas risk.
In 2016, Russia probed voter registration logs. We all know there are warnings about what China is doing proper now. How efficient has this marketing campaign by Beijing been? And are there different state actors or non-state actors you are involved about?
DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: Yeah, we have seen Russia, we have seen Iran, we have seen China use the playbook for affect operations.
That is why it is so vital that Individuals understand...
MARGARET BRENNAN: Proper now.
DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: ... that they should construct resilience in opposition to that.
For those who see info that is on the Web, you are unsure whether or not it is true, be essential about it, ask questions, take a look at the supply, examine it, and do not unfold that info any extra broadly and provides -- principally give overseas adversaries an opportunity to govern Individuals and to sow discord and to create insecurity in our elections.
However I wish to be very, very clear. I've confidence within the elections which are going to be run due to the large quantity of labor that is been carried out throughout the federal authorities, at state and native election officers, with election distributors, to place a number of, a number of layers of resilience and safety controls in place.
I'm assured that elections shall be secure and safe, and the American individuals ought to believe within the integrity of elections after they go to the poll field, after they forged their vote.
MARGARET BRENNAN: All proper, good luck to you. It is going to be a busy subsequent few days and weeks.
Thanks very a lot.
And we flip now to the chairman of the Nationwide Republican Congressional Committee, Minnesota Congressman Tom Emmer.
Good morning. Good to have you ever right here in particular person.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER (R-Minnesota): Good morning.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I've to ask you about what we have simply been speaking about right here.
How involved are you in regards to the danger of political violence, and the way ought to or not it's minimized?
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: There is no place for violence, interval, in our society, bodily violence or violence in opposition to somebody's property.
I feel you've got already lined that right here this morning. The incident in San Francisco, tragic as it's, I feel we'd like some extra details about it, however we must always all be feeling for Paul Pelosi and his household. Hopefully, there shall be a 100% restoration.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And simply to be abundantly clear, you denounce any sort of assault on the Pelosi household?
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Completely.
There needs to be no assaults, interval. There needs to be no violence in our society, once more, whether or not it is political or in any other case. There is no place for it in a civilized society.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Nicely, I am glad you stated that, as a result of I wish to ask you about one thing in our CBS Information ballot that exhibits that, at the same time as Republicans are poised to guide this contest and -- and take management of the Home, we see suspicion, particularly amongst Republicans, in regards to the voting course of.
A giant majority of Republicans assist the concept of personal residents difficult election officers as they course of and report vote counts on election evening. We're seeing that on the display now. Two-thirds of Republicans assist the concept of personal residents patrolling round poll drop packing containers and polling locations.
That is simply Republicans. We do not see this with Democrats. We don't see this with independents. Would you urge non-public residents to not patrol polling locations?
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Nicely, you picked the phrases, Margaret.
I might say that it's Republicans, Democrats, independents. All Americans are very acutely conscious, as your earlier visitor simply talked about, about our election course of. I feel that is going to be an excellent election, as a result of persons are awake. They're paying consideration.
They need to volunteer as ballot watchers. It is a state-based system. No matter your state requires and permits, it is best to positively be concerned. And I feel it will assist the method.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And simply to be abundantly clear, ballot watching is totally different than voter intimidation, which is illegal.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: No one needs to be intimidated after they're exercising their most treasured proper to vote.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So, if you see video, as we've got seen in a spot like in Arizona, the place you see people with tactical gear, the place you see people with weapons exterior drop packing containers, the place -- how do you classify that?
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Once more, nobody ought to really feel intimidated after they're exercising their proper to vote.
MARGARET BRENNAN: That's intimidating?
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: You have obtained -- you've got obtained tales on each side of the aisle. You've got tales in many various states about how individuals have felt as if their proper was infringed on.
I feel cooler heads have to prevail.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: I actually suppose we will have a superb election. I feel you've got obtained 15-million plus which have already participated in early voting throughout this nation.
I feel you are going to have a giant turnout in 9 days to any extent further the election. And I feel, once more, Republicans, Democrats and others are properly conscious of the problems that we had throughout COVID. Folks have been stepping up and attempting to do issues to ensure we have been protected and secure, however they have been adjusting election legal guidelines on the fly.
I feel loads of that has been resolved. I feel you are going to see a extremely good expertise in 9 days.
MARGARET BRENNAN: OK. So you'll urge residents to not patrol polling locations?
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Once more, I urge everybody, get entangled.
MARGARET BRENNAN: OK.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: No matter your state permits, get entangled. Volunteer.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I would like...
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Precisely what your...
MARGARET BRENNAN: OK.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: ... your earlier visitor stated.
MARGARET BRENNAN: As a result of I wish to ask...
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Be a part of the method.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I wish to ask you, as a result of, on this bulletin, it additionally talks a couple of linkage in drawing and -- and undermining confidence in elections due to 2020.
And you might be on this record that we've got of 307 Republicans working for workplace who've raised doubts in regards to the integrity of the election. I imply, they're drawing a direct line right here between sowing mistrust then and what we're seeing proper now.
Do you remorse sowing doubts your self?
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: I -- what you are referring to, I've by no means sowed doubts in regards to the election. I've positively raised questions.
MARGARET BRENNAN: However you signed onto this Texas amicus transient...
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Completely. Let's discuss that.
MARGARET BRENNAN: ... that went to the Supreme Court docket to overturn it.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: What it stated was -- Margaret, what that -- what that stated, that amicus transient, is that lots of people, governors, attorneys basic, secretaries of state, took unilateral motion throughout COVID, altering...
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: ... altering the election legal guidelines themselves.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So, you do not remorse these...
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Once more, if I might end -- altering election legal guidelines themselves to try to ensure that we have been secure whereas we exercised our proper to vote.
That specific amicus transient, all it stated was that we have to reaffirm that state legislatures, and legislatures alone, make their election legal guidelines. So, as we go ahead, as soon as we're out of COVID, we've got to...
MARGARET BRENNAN: So, you...
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: ... return to that.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So, to be clear, you do not take into account your self an election denier?
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Completely not.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And Joe Biden is the legitimately elected...
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: We -- we...
MARGARET BRENNAN: ... president of United States of America?
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REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: He is sworn. He is serving. He's the president of the US.
MARGARET BRENNAN: He's the president of the US. However you stand by...
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: And we have an election in 9 days. We have got an election in 9 days that we have been engaged on for the final two years.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: You reported within the in -- intro that eight out of ten Individuals in that very same ballot that you just're referring to are involved with the place this nation is. They are saying it is uncontrolled.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Proper, however you are not undermining...
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: For those who look, eight out of 10...
MARGARET BRENNAN: You are not which means to undermine confidence within the 2020 election along with your feedback right here?
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Eight out of ten Individuals proper now suppose we're on the improper monitor. That is what they are going to be voting on in 9 days.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I do know.
And I might love to speak about one thing apart from individuals being concerned for his or her lives. However, sadly, that is the place we're.
I wish to ask you about this with regards to political violence. In your Twitter feed, you posted this video we will present only a few days in the past the place you are firing a gun, and it says: "Loved exercising my Second Modification rights. #FirePelosi."
Why is there a gun in a political advert in any respect?
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: It wasn't an advert. I used to be -- I used to be tweeting out -- I used to be tweeting out one thing that I had simply carried out.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Hashtag -- or a tweet -- hashtag #FirePelosi, with a weapon.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Nicely, now you are...
MARGARET BRENNAN: Would not a pink slip be extra becoming, if it is about firing her?
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: It is attention-grabbing, Margaret.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Why a gun?
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: It is attention-grabbing, Margaret, that we're speaking about this, this morning, when, a few years again, when a Bernie Sanders supporter shot Steve Scalise...
MARGARET BRENNAN: Which was horrendous and horrific...
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: ... when a Bernie Sanders supporter...
MARGARET BRENNAN: ... which is why we needs to be not...
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: ... shot Steve Scalise...
MARGARET BRENNAN: ... be placing weapons...
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: ... I by no means heard you or anybody else within the media attempting guilty Democrats for what occurred.
We have to keep targeted on what we're all doing...
MARGARET BRENNAN: We did intensive protection of what occurred to Steve Scalise.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Excuse me?
MARGARET BRENNAN: There was intensive protection, sir.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: However no person tried to equate Democrats' rhetoric, those who say...
MARGARET BRENNAN: I am not speaking about your rhetoric. I am speaking about what you posted.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: It is the identical.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You are taking pictures a gun. Our viewers simply noticed it.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Yeah, proper.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Hashtag #FirePelosi.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Exercising our Second Modification rights, having enjoyable...
MARGARET BRENNAN: That is not a debate in regards to the Second Modification.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: ... taking pictures a gun. Yeah.
MARGARET BRENNAN: That is not a debate in regards to the Second Modification.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Sure, it's.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Hashtag #FirePelosi.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Sure, it's.
I -- I am working the marketing campaign operation.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Do you not perceive that that's suggestive to people who find themselves in a nasty state, and, on this present atmosphere, how dangerous it's? As you are speaking about...
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Nicely, I disagree, Margaret.
MARGARET BRENNAN: ... the significance of decreasing the rhetoric...
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: I disagree with you.
MARGARET BRENNAN: ... why do you permit that up?
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Once more, I by no means noticed anybody after Steve Scalise was shot by a...
MARGARET BRENNAN: I am speaking about proper now...
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: ... Bernie Sanders supporter...
MARGARET BRENNAN: ... what simply is going on proper now.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: .. attempting to equate -- equate Democrat rhetoric with these actions. Please do not do this.
MARGARET BRENNAN: OK.
Taking a look at your candidates, Republican candidates have spent greater than $116 million on adverts that talked about Speaker Pelosi by identify of their cycle. If that is in regards to the points, why should not make it in regards to the points? Why not depersonalize it?
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: It's completely in regards to the points. It is about the truth that we've got double-digit inflation...
MARGARET BRENNAN: You do not suppose...
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: ... exploding -- exploding price of residing. We have got against the law wave throughout this nation that could be a direct end result -- is the direct end result...
MARGARET BRENNAN: On this second -- we're eight days out -- do not you suppose this wants to alter?
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Once more...
MARGARET BRENNAN: Why not pull a few of these adverts? Why not simply delete your tweet?
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Nicely, I am certain -- I am certain individuals wish to discuss something however what the Democrats have carried out to this nation, which, fairly frankly, is exploding price of residing, against the law wave in our main cities that's the results of this defund the police nonsense and cashless bail.
I imply, you take a look at New York Metropolis, the place you place somebody in jail at 9:00 p.m. for assaulting somebody on the road and so they're again out on the road at 9:00 a.m. committing crimes once more. You take a look at my state of Minnesota, Minneapolis, it is had 6,000 assaults because the starting of the yr, Margaret.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Mm-hmm.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: These are the problems which are prime of thoughts for each voter on this nation.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: That is why they are going to present up in -- on the -- on November 8.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Mm-hmm.
REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: And that is why Republicans are going to win within the midterms.
MARGARET BRENNAN: That is what our projections are displaying.
However I might counsel extra pink slips, fewer weapons in our adverts on this atmosphere.
Sir, thanks for becoming a member of us.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: And we're joined now by David Becker. He's CBS Information election regulation contributor.
David, welcome again right here.
We simply had that dialog in regards to the atmosphere that we're in proper now. I do know you have got been elevating issues for some time about a lot of your colleagues, individuals you recognize who function election employees, who're fearful about what's to return.
What are you listening to?
DAVID BECKER: Sure, I imply, they've been struggling for 2 years now abuse, threats and harassment not solely directed at them and their staffs, however their households, their youngsters in some circumstances. It looks like election deniers do wish to create an atmosphere of concern.
I feel they need election officers to be scared. And so they need voters to be scared, to a point. I feel it is also actually outstanding that voters have responded with over 20 million of them voting already. We've 1.6 million of them having already voted in Georgia alone.
The atmosphere is admittedly scary proper now for lots. I imply, we see that from the polling. We see that from what Scott was simply speaking about earlier as properly.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And these are individuals in your group that you recognize.
DAVID BECKER: Sure.
MARGARET BRENNAN: This is not huge, unhealthy Washington.
DAVID BECKER: No.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Proper.
DAVID BECKER: I discuss to election officers usually. I used to be speaking to an election official in Florida simply final evening who was coping with a problem at a polling place.
I discuss to election officers in Arizona, together with these points that we've got seen in Maricopa County, Arizona. Necessary to notice that...
MARGARET BRENNAN: These males within the tactical gear that we have been simply speaking about.
DAVID BECKER: Proper, at a few...
MARGARET BRENNAN: ... that a federal -- federal decide says is their -- is permitted.
DAVID BECKER: Proper, sure, at the least for now.
It has been appealed to the Ninth Circuit, and it is going to be heard subsequent week. So, we are going to see if that's nonetheless the case. Underneath federal regulation, there are a number of statutes that prohibit voter intimidation or tried voter intimidation.
And I can let you know, as a former lawyer who used to serve within the Division of Justice, that videotaping or photographing voters in opposition to their will, following them, that has been the sort of exercise that the DOJ has considered as intimidating up to now.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I wish to make a really clear distinction right here, as a result of we have been speaking about with Congressman Emmer the decision for individuals -- and you've got heard it from the top of the RNC -- to return and watch voting happen.
That isn't unlawful.
DAVID BECKER: No, it is not solely not unlawful.
Correctly skilled ballot watching by each events is a extremely good factor. Excessive transparency is one thing that is practiced by election officers all around the nation. They need individuals to return in and see what they're doing. That could be a actually good factor. However they function flies on the wall. In the event that they see an issue, they're imagined to report it to the correct authorities.
Once we see vigilantes -- and that is solely occurring in just a few locations -- begin to take issues into their very own palms, these persons are not correctly skilled. However individuals who wish to volunteer to be ballot employees working for the precise election jurisdiction, extra ballot watchers working for his or her campaigns or their political events, so long as they're well-trained, that is a extremely good a part of the method.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Mm-hmm. However voter intimidation is illegal.
DAVID BECKER: That is proper.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You -- we have been trying in our analysis right here at that the AP has a report saying essentially the most litigation ever fired -- filed earlier than an election is going on proper now, most of these lawsuits by Republicans.
What does that sign to you?
DAVID BECKER: Nicely, I feel persons are very attuned to what is going on on with the election course of. That is not essentially a nasty factor.
We're additionally seeing efforts to alter guidelines in crimson areas as properly, issues to put in hand counting of ballots, which is a extremely unhealthy concept, actually comes up with inaccurate counts, takes rather a lot longer, breeds extra concern in regards to the course of. A county known as Nye County in Nevada is doing that.
However resolving these sorts of disputes earlier than the election is an effective factor. So, if we're having loads of litigation, it is vital for everybody to know the foundations by election evening.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.
DAVID BECKER: It isn't OK to query these guidelines after the election. You talked about that Texas lawsuit that got here in December 2020.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.
DAVID BECKER: That was an ideal instance of that.
MARGARET BRENNAN: All proper, thanks very a lot, David Becker.
DAVID BECKER: Thanks, Margaret.
And we shall be seeing much more of you, I do know, within the coming days and weeks.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: Welcome again to FACE THE NATION.
We go now to the chair of the Democratic Congressional Marketing campaign Committee, that is New York Congressman Sean Patrick Maloney.
Good morning to you.
REP. SEAN PATRICK MALONEY (D-NY) (Democratic Congressional Marketing campaign Committee Chair): Good morning.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I wish to begin the place we simply left off with our different visitors. How involved are you in regards to the danger of political violence? And might you say, unequivocally, that you just and your fellow Democrats will settle for the result of your elections?
SEAN PATRICK MALONEY: In fact, we'll settle for the result of the elections. At all times have. At all times will.
And - and we're very involved in regards to the integrity of our elections, particularly when persons are attempting to intimidate individuals with weapons, after they're engaged in these techniques to attempt to undermine confidence.
Now, we're - we will settle for the outcomes of the election. That is - that is the American manner.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Nicely, I am glad you stated that as a result of there's been loads of consideration drawn to feedback by some Democrats, together with Hillary Clinton, who simply launched a taped assertion on-line the place she was speaking about upcoming elections and he or she stated, right-wing extremists have already got a plan to actually steal the following presidential election and so they're not making a secret of it.
I perceive hyperbole, however would you agree that that is not useful within the present atmosphere to speak about plots to steal elections?
SEAN PATRICK MALONEY: Sure, no, I do not perceive what meaning and I did not see the remark.
Let me - let me let you know what I feel. What I feel is that it is completely authentic for each events to ensure that voting is honest, that there is no fraud, that when votes are forged, that the individuals have a proper to forged them or do not. And that is regular. And in a detailed election, you might need a recount, you might need different examination of absentee ballots. That is all run of the mill stuff.
What's totally different is individuals displaying up with weapons and sitting at the back of a pickup truck subsequent to a drop field attempting to scare the tar out of people who find themselves simply exercising their vote.
What's totally different is when a president, for the primary time in our historical past, says he was cheated out of the end result when he is aware of that is a lie. So, let's -- let's not - let's not - let's not faux for a minute that each side have the identical - identical quantity of accountability for - for the lack of confidence in our elections. One aspect has been on the market for a few years now doing all the pieces they will to faux Joe Biden did not win honest and sq. when he did. And that is the distinction.
MARGARET BRENNAN: On that matter, Democrats shelled out about $53 million to assist 13 Republican candidates through the primaries. I do know you are a part of technique right here and the technique was to raise much less electable Republicans so as to profit Democrats. And a few of this labored for you, however in at the least two races these guys have real looking photographs at victory. I am taking a look at John Gibbs in Michigan, for instance.
Do you're taking accountability for serving to election deniers?
SEAN PATRICK MALONEY: Nicely, on the DCCC, there's just one race within the nation, one, the place we - the place we interact within the - within the tactic you are speaking about. And what we did was we ran an advert that is true that stated he is too excessive for western Michigan. And we ran that basic election advert about two weeks early. And Hillary Scholten has been beating him persistently since she grew to become our nominee. She's a robust pro-choice Democrat. He is a nut.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So that you stand by the technique?
SEAN PATRICK MALONEY: And she or he's going to -- and he or she's going to beat him.
What I can let you know is that, in a funds of $340 million, we spent about $400,000 working a real basic election industrial two weeks early calling John Gibbs an extremist, which he's. And - and that is all you are speaking about.
Now, I can not be -- I - I can not reply to what governors did or what senators did or what different individuals did. However the committee I ran, in a funds of $300 million, put $400,000 into dashing up a basic election advert that was truthful.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.
SEAN PATRICK MALONEY: And we will win that race.
MARGARET BRENNAN: The highest three points once we discuss to voters that they inform us they're involved about are financial system, inflation and crime. Half of voters, based on our ballot, suppose Democrats would lower police funding. Now, I noticed an advert the DCCC simply purchased in your district, and it opens with you speaking to a policeman. You might be keenly conscious of this. Why hasn't your celebration been capable of shake that notion of being smooth on crime?
SEAN PATRICK MALONEY: Nicely, as a result of a lie will get midway world wide earlier than the reality will get its footwear on, because the saying goes. In my very own case, I introduced $7 million for native police departments, supported the Make investments to Shield Act, which can fund all of the police departments in my district, all beneath 125 officers. That is a very powerful assist we have carried out for police in 30 years.
And if you happen to care about rising crime, my goodness, we must always hearken to police who're begging us to do one thing in regards to the gun violence, which is on the coronary heart of a lot rise in crime. And, in fact, the MAGA crowd is within the pocket of the NRA and will not contact frequent sense (ph) bipartisan gun security laws, which we handed by the Home.
So, we've got a report of outcomes supporting good policing and - and - and going after gun violence. And that is what individuals have to know.
MARGARET BRENNAN: In our ballot, 46 % of voters consider Republicans' financial insurance policies will assist them. Solely 40 % say the identical about Democrats. Fifty-three % of voters consider fuel costs will go up beneath Democrats. Twenty-one % say the identical of the - of the GOP. I imply, because you're speaking technique right here, in these closing days, how do you alter these perceptions and the way do you get out youthful voters?
SEAN PATRICK MALONEY: Proper. Nicely, what individuals have to know is that we've got a plan for cheaper fuel, cheaper groceries, cheaper housing, cheaper well being care. We've a plan for safer streets, supporting good policing and attacking gun violence, which is a lot of the issue, and supporting our freedoms, our reproductive freedoms and our voting rights. And that is a -- these are actual plans.
Now, you possibly can take a ballot and you'll - you possibly can take a snapshot at any given time. However, in fact, your former visitor had no plan for the financial system. They don't have any plan for gun violence. They don't have any plan to maneuver our nation ahead, defending voting rights, defending reproductive freedoms. So -- so what I might say is, do not punish the people who find themselves fixing your issues and do not reward the people who find themselves attempting to use the issues for their very own political energy. That is actually the distinction proper now. We're - we're engaged within the arduous work of bringing our nation ahead. The opposite aspect's engaged on their very own energy.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Congressman, thanks to your time this morning.
We'll be proper again.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: We wish to take a more in-depth take a look at a few of our battleground tracker findings and the problems which are setting the temper in America in these closing days of marketing campaign '22.
Mark Strassmann reviews from Los Angeles.
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MARK STRASSMANN (voice over): America's zeitgeist, vulnerability, like this dwelling invasion hammer assault on a politician's 82-year-old partner, reinforcing we're an anxious, usually resentful bunch heading into midterms.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now with Joe Biden, there is a huge thumb on prime of you the place you possibly can't get pleasure from your self.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I simply have to see some peace. And I feel the one manner to do that is voting.
MARK STRASSMANN: The financial system, particularly inflation, indisputably prime of thoughts in voter nervousness.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The price of groceries are outrageous. Utilities are outrageous. It retains going up.
MARK STRASSMANN (on digicam): And fuel costs. Take a look at these in Los Angeles, proper at $7 a gallon for normal. That might be nightmarish in many of the nation. However right here in L.A., costs have truly been coming down within the final couple weeks.
MARK STRASSMANN (voice over): In our newest CBS Information ballot of registered voters, a majority blame President Biden and the Democrats for the financial system and fuel costs. The president preventing that notion.
JOE BIDEN, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Unemployment will not be 6.5 however 3.5 %, the bottom it has been in 50 years.
MARK STRASSMANN: Republicans see inflation numbers and scent blood.
SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX): Not only a crimson wave, however a crimson tsunami.
MARK STRASSMANN: Crime is one other voter fear, like final week's lethal college taking pictures in St. Louis, the fortieth this yr involving accidents or deaths. In main cities, homicide charges and shootings, each down barely, however from a 30 % spike two years in the past. Our ballot exhibits Republicans have a double-digit lead on crime insurance policies to make you're feeling safer.
However American voters need this election cycle of management to confront different challenges. Immigration, an infectious dies trifecta, Covid, the flu and RSV, gun coverage and abortion in a post-Roe America. Our ballot says a majority of voters suppose Republicans will move a nationwide abortion ban.
One other fear, tradition wars invading the classroom and efficiency that is plummeting. It is yet one more problem calling out for grownup intervention as thousands and thousands of Individuals now vote for his or her concept of a grownup, understanding that whoever wins, half the nation will resent it, once more.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: Mark Strassmann reporting from Los Angeles.
Our new CBS Information battleground tracker ballot exhibits Republicans nonetheless have an edge within the race for management of the Home. CBS Information elections and surveys director Anthony Salvanto is right here.
Anthony, inform us extra.
ANTHONY SALVANTO: Good morning, Margaret.
You understand, we have been speaking to voters all through this marketing campaign in all of the congressional districts. Proper now our newest CBS Information estimate is that the Republicans lead in 228 districts. That is sufficient to take the Home majority.
Now, there's a vary round these estimates. Let me present you the political implications right here. They actually focus on turnout. You would possibly ask, do Democrats have any likelihood to hold on, even to a slim Home majority? The reply to that begins with the chance that they'd get larger turnout from youthful voters. If voters present up the best way they did in, say, 2018, that might get the Democrats a bit bit nearer, make the Home successfully even. The difficulty for them is, we've got not seen sturdy indications that that's going to occur.
The extra possible state of affairs is that Republicans, who do have an specific turnout benefit, extra motivation, extra enthusiasm to this point, if their turnout benefit grows, we plug that into the mannequin and that will get the Republicans as much as 238 seats, a barely bigger majority.
Now, in any case, we're taking a look at a seat achieve right here for the Republicans that is about and even beneath common for a celebration out of energy. You would possibly ask why that's, particularly given the issues in regards to the state of the nation and the state of the financial system.
Let me present you a cut up that I feel tells loads of the story.
I requested individuals, which issues you extra, whether or not or not the U.S. goes to have a functioning democracy or whether or not it will have a robust financial system? And the outcomes are considerably cut up. However take a look at the voting variations right here. Those that are extra involved about functioning of democracy, voting for Democrats. These extra involved in regards to the sturdy financial system, voting for Republicans. And I feel that defines the best way that voters see the very massive stakes right here and the best way the events are expressing these stakes, which is partly why this race is so locked in.
Margaret.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Anthony Salvanto, thanks.
And we'll be proper again.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: For extra now we flip to our political panel.
Amy Walter, writer and editor-in-chief of "The Cook dinner Political Report," senior White Home and political correspondent, Ed O'Keefe is right here, and Nick Timiraos, chief financial correspondent for "The Wall Road Journal" can also be on the desk.
Good morning to all of you.
AMY WALTER (Writer and editor-in chief, "Cook dinner Political Report with Amy Walter"): Good morning.
NICK TIMIRAOS (Chief financial correspondent, "The Wall Road Journal): Hello.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So, Amy, we simply heard Anthony's state of affairs right here. This isn't a crimson wave, however it's a Republican majority. Does it match with what you are seeing?
AMY WALTER: Sure. I feel the best way that Anthony pointed it out is a really sensible mind-set about this.
You understand, elections -- usually midterm elections, the problem for the in-party normally is that their very own aspect would not end up. And that is the place the opposite aspect is far more motivated. And if you see these huge, huge positive factors, like we noticed say in 1994 or 2010 on the a part of Republicans. This yr we're seeing that Republicans and Democrats are motivated. Republicans a bit bit extra. However Democrats really feel fairly good that they are at the least getting extra of their base turned out. Now, younger voters being all the time a problem for Democrats.
However, look, I feel what occurred over the course of the summer season is that the problems surrounding abortion rights, plus the deal with Donald Trump, January sixth, and, fairly frankly, a bit higher of an financial image gave some enhance of enthusiasm to Democrats and obtained them energized by way of the voters, extra energized to end up. Nevertheless it feels as if that has just about stalled. That it hit this level and it hasn't actually gone a lot additional. And, as an alternative, the place the main focus is now, it is not as a lot about abortion or Donald Trump, and far more in regards to the issues that Anthony identified, which is the financial system, fuel costs and other people feeling, fairly frankly, fairly caught.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And we body this as, you recognize, kind of a selection with (INAUDIBLE). And - and, Ed, in a few of these latest politic adverts, I am fascinated by in Maloney's district, I used to be simply watching one, they're altering the main focus to be about extremism.
ED O'KEEFE: Sure.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So not even speaking in regards to the affirmative case, however concern the opposite aspect.
ED O'KEEFE: Proper. Not - and never solely within the realm of democracy and - and people issues, however within the realm of abortion rights and - and Social Safety and Medicare being ripped up or rethought.
I watched Maloney this week truly make that precise argument to a bunch of seniors in assisted residing amenities. He stated, if you happen to do not suppose they could come after your Social Safety and Medicare, look what they only did to abortion rights after 50 years of threatening to do it. In order that's sort of a strategy to make each arguments on the identical time however not make an unique (ph) abortion argument. And that is the sort of pivoting that they've carried out right here, now realizing that abortion is not as pressing a problem.
A part of the explanation one Republican I talked to this week stated, look, you go take a look at moms throughout the nation who could also be involved about abortion rights, however they don't seem to be essentially bumping up in opposition to the difficulty of abortion rights each day, they're bumping up in opposition to the truth that beef is costing thrice as a lot because it did earlier than.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Proper.
ED O'KEEFE: And people extra pressing financial points could also be what's drawing individuals again over to the Republican aspect.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.
I wish to come again to the difficulty of abortion in a second.
However, Nick, are you able to decide up on this as a result of our ballot exhibits 69 % of voters describe the situation of the nationwide financial system as unhealthy. Solely 27 % say it is good.
You have obtained a bit saying -- out in "The Journal" saying principally American customers are doing fairly properly.
NICK TIMIRAOS: Sure.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So, why do not they really feel that manner?
NICK TIMIRAOS: Sure, that is a terrific query, Margaret. You understand, the difficulty right here is that if you happen to take a look at the labor market, 3.5 % unemployment price, what's to not like about that? However if you happen to take a look at, you recognize, what's occurring with wages, they don't seem to be maintaining with costs. We had one other report Friday that exhibits that Individuals' wages usually are not maintaining with costs. And so these are actual earnings cuts. No one likes that. You drive by the fuel station, you see how costly fuel is and also you take a look at what's occurring proper now with rates of interest, they've gone up rather a lot this yr. Mortgage charges this week are above 7 % for the 30-year fastened price mortgage. We've not seen that since 2001.
So, sure, on paper, you recognize, there are issues you possibly can level to that look nice, however individuals simply do not feel nice about it.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And we've got this Fed assembly within the coming days. What are the conversations contained in the Federal Reserve proper now about when inflation will get higher and what they plan to do?
NICK TIMIRAOS: Nicely, the issue for the Fed is that financial coverage takes time. It acts with a delay on the financial system. So, you possibly can't see your strikes instantly.
The Fed, this yr, has raised rates of interest because the quickest tempo because the Nineteen Eighties. Usually they elevate charges by 1 / 4 level each six weeks or so. This yr they have been going at three-quarters of a proportion level. And when you do not have time to see how that influences the financial system, it is like barreling down the freeway however utilizing the rearview mirror to information the place you are going. It raises the danger that you'll drive off the street.
And the issue right here for the Fed is, they can not take a danger of not getting on prime of this inflation as a result of though the danger of doing an excessive amount of is a recession, the danger of not doing sufficient is that inflation simply stays excessive and it's important to have an even bigger downturn later.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And, I imply, these are the main points of it. That's financial coverage. What's it that - that Republicans are literally arguing, Ed, they will do as a result of, actually, the truth is, their palms are fairly tied right here.
ED O'KEEFE: They're. I - you recognize, if you happen to learn their web sites, if you happen to hearken to what they are saying -
MARGARET BRENNAN: (INAUDIBLE).
ED O'KEEFE: They wish to lower authorities spending and, in some circumstances, they wish to see implementation of the bipartisan infrastructure invoice that both they voted for and so they do not wish to admit that may assist their districts even when they voted in opposition to it. And I -
AMY WALTER: Sure, I imply -
ED O'KEEFE: Go forward.
AMY WALTER: Nicely, and that is the underside line, if you're in cost, and issues are going properly, you get the credit score, loads of which you do not deserve. Whenever you're in cost and issues aren't going properly, you get the blame, even if you happen to do not' deserve all of it. And if you're the out celebration, you get the good thing about the doubt as a result of voters are saying, properly, I do not know, if Ed can actually repair this, however these of us who're in cost, they don't seem to be doing an excellent job. Let's simply - let's simply put it -- let's simply give them a shot, which is why Democrats are doing the extremism factor.
If persons are upset with the established order, which they clearly are, Democrats' solely likelihood to carry on, particularly in a few of these Senate races, is to say, the larger danger is taking a danger on the opposite aspect. Staying with the established order you do not like is uncomfortable however not as unhealthy.
ED O'KEEFE: And the opposite ironic factor, rather a lot - very similar to the Fed, the - the issue for the Biden administration and Democrats is loads of their accomplishments are going to take time to be applied.
AMY WALTER: Proper. That is proper.
ED O'KEEFE: The Medicare value cuts do not kick in till subsequent yr.
AMY WALTER: That is proper.
ED O'KEEFE: The bridge is not getting rebuilt till early 2024.
AMY WALTER: Proper.
ED O'KEEFE: To allow them to discuss all this stuff within the summary, however the voter cannot see it but.
AMY WALTER: That is proper. That is proper.
ED O'KEEFE: The president could know, come my re-election, if I am working in 2024, individuals will see what I did -
AMY WALTER: That is proper.
ED O'KEEFE: However I -- they will not have the ability to see it earlier than November eighth.
MARGARET BRENNAN: It is also sort of arduous generally to message round market forces.
ED O'KEEFE: Proper. Sort of?
MARGARET BRENNAN: You understand, an - an vitality analyst that I - that I communicate to was mentioning, you recognize, Ron Klein, the chief of employees to the president, tweets nearly day by day in regards to the value of fuel. He is like, why are they attempting to personal one thing they can't management?
ED O'KEEFE: That could be a query that the White Home chief of employees goes to must reply for. And never solely is -- why are they tweeting about one thing that they can not management, why is he tweeting a lot to start with each morning about this and different points when he, maybe, needs to be working the White Home? I've heard this from Democrats. I feel we'll hear it much more from Democrats after the elections if it goes south for them.
It's an obsession for them as a result of they know it's the psychological and the kind of knowledge barometer that we have all used to measure inflation and the dialogue in regards to the financial system. However, sure, it's one thing utterly out of their management. And maybe by doing that it is -- as that vitality analyst famous, it could have drawn an excessive amount of consideration to the president and permits him to take extra of the blame.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You understand, Nick, in "The Journal," a survey of economists placing the chance of recession over the following 12 months as 63 %. So, that's the Congress that Republicans could be strolling in to regulate.
NICK TIMIRAOS: Sure. And the difficulty right here is, the financial system is slowing. We knew it was going to gradual as a result of we had a growth final yr. But when it would not gradual sufficient, if customers preserve spending the financial savings that they've accrued through the pandemic, then that simply means the Fed goes to return in and lift rates of interest extra. You understand, this week we will get near 4 % on the coverage price that the Fed units, however we might go nearer to five % subsequent yr. And, you recognize, there is a - there is a Fed chairman who used to say that it was the Fed's job to take the punch bowl away because the celebration was getting began. And that is what you are seeing this yr.
But when customers preserve spending cash, we had very stable earnings reviews this previous week from United, Visa, Coca-Cola, if customers preserve spending, then Jay Powell goes to get on the telephone and name the cops and say, we have to get the noise quantity down right here. We have got - we have to get these individuals to go dwelling as a result of that is simply not sustainable to have inflation persevering with to run larger and better and better.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Proper. And that is arduous to clarify generally that like issues -- some issues are going to get costlier by design. It'll get costlier so that you can borrow cash due to what's occurring.
NICK TIMIRAOS: Proper.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Coming again to the difficulty of abortion, Amy and Ed. I feel it is attention-grabbing that the dynamic appears to have modified on this by way of bringing out voters. You have been saying, Ed, that folks really feel inflation, maybe, is a extra quick disaster than abortion entry.
I'm wondering, Amy, as a result of it is so totally different state by state.
AMY WALTER: Proper. That is what we're -
MARGARET BRENNAN: Is that it?
AMY WALTER: It is fairly attention-grabbing truly. The place we're seeing Democratic -- particularly candidates for the Home, having essentially the most hassle is definitely in blue states, like Oregon, California, locations the place the difficulty of abortion is fairly properly settled. These are Democratic-run states. They're - the -- it is not an existential query --
MARGARET BRENNAN: As a result of the state has already codified it?
AMY WALTER: As a result of the state has both codified or it is Democratic and the governors' candidates have all pledged to go ahead in that manner.
It is the crimson and purple states, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, the place we all know that this challenge will not be settled and the place, in Michigan, in fact, they've a poll initiative, in addition to a governor's race. You have got governor races in these different states. So, there's far more of a - of a friction there, proper, in regards to the resolution being decided by your vote this November that is not as obvious in a few of these blue states.
ED O'KEEFE: Sure. And the truth that they must run into New York, Oregon, the president's going to New Mexico this week.
AMY WALTER: Proper.
ED O'KEEFE: All of it speaks to the truth that maybe they might have miscalculated how abortion would work in these states and the way a lot cash Republicans must spend proper now within the closing weeks to actually put a bunch of Democrats on the ropes.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.
Good to have all three of you right here. Thanks very a lot.
And that is going to do it for us right here at FACE THE NATION right this moment. Thanks for watching. And tune in subsequent Tuesday, Election Day. I can not consider that. Wow.
AMY WALTER: I can not consider you simply stated that.
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