The next is the transcript of an interview with Democratic Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland that aired Sunday, Sept. 4, 2022, on "Face the Nation."
MAJOR GARRETT: We're joined now by Maryland Congressman Jamie Raskin, a Democratic member of the January 6, choose committee. Congressman, good to see you. Good morning.
REP. JAMIE RASKIN (D-MD): Thanks a lot for having me Main.
MAJOR GARRETT: So, former President Trump says that MAGA Republicans are attempting to save lots of democracy, they wish to be taken significantly on this difficulty. So let's assessment what the previous president mentioned this week earlier. He mentioned the 2020 election ought to be rerun, or he ought to be reinstated in workplace, and that if reelected in 2024, he would supply apologies and full pardons to these charged and or convicted for storming the Capitol on January 6, consider that.
REP. RASKIN: Properly, first, if he is saying that the election ought to be rerun, which is one thing he is been asserting from the start, that is completely outdoors of the Structure. There isn't any process for the army simply to grab the election equipment and run a brand new election, which is likely one of the issues that his disgraced former Nationwide Safety Adviser Michael Flynn was pushing and we all know was a part of the January 6 plot. And look, greater than 60 courts rejected each declare of electoral fraud and corruption which Donald Trump superior. He is had the advantage of greater than 60 courts, together with eight courts, the place he appointed the judges to workplace, take a look at all these claims and so they have been all rejected. It was rejected within the states and he misplaced the election. Two of the hallmarks of a fascist political get together are one, they do not settle for the outcomes of elections that do not go their method and two, they embrace political violence. And I feel that is why President Biden was proper to sound the alarm this week about these persevering with assaults on our constitutional order from the skin by Donald Trump and his motion.
MAJOR GARRETT: Let's speak in regards to the January 6 committee. There may be dialog about having Newt Gingrich, former Speaker of the Home are available in. He has described this committee as a "Stalinist present trial'' earlier this yr, he mentioned beneath a Republican led Congress, members of this committee could be arrested. How do you reply to that remark- these remarks? And what can be the worth of him coming in speaking to the committee?
REP. RASKIN: Properly, we're inviting in solely individuals who have related proof and testimony–
MAJOR GARRETT: What's his related proof and testimony?
REP. RASKIN: Properly, he- he has appeared at quite a few occasions in- all through the investigation in regards to the try and propound "the massive lie", and to maintain issues going lengthy after the election had been settled. However it's attention-grabbing that he invoked Stalinism, when all the Stalinists are on Donald Trump's facet, like Vladimir Putin, the previous head of the KGB who mentioned that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the best disaster of the twentieth century, or the dictator of North Korea who Donald Trump writes love letters to. The Stalinist are on their facet, and they need to preserve them on that facet of the aisle as a result of our facet is combating for democracy in America.
MAJOR GARRETT: Does the committee nonetheless have curiosity in acquiring testimony from Ginny Thomas, spouse of Supreme Courtroom Justice Clarence Thomas?
REP. RASKIN: Look, what we're thinking about getting testimony from anybody who has related proof in regards to the try and overthrow the 2020 election. Let's not lose sight of what we're speaking about right here–
MAJOR GARRETT: There have been disclosures this week that she was in e mail dialog with folks in Wisconsin about that matter.
REP. RASKIN: I, talking as one member and solely as one member, I might say she has a related testimony to render, and she or he ought to come ahead and provides it. I do not wish to overstate her position. We have talked to greater than 1000 folks. However we might like to listen to from Gingrich and we might like to listen to from her too.
MAJOR GARRETT: What's the chance former Vice President Pence testifies?
REP. RASKIN: Properly, look, Vice President Pence was the goal of Donald Trump's wrath and fury and energy to overthrow the election on January 6, the entire concept was to get Pence to step outdoors his constitutional position, after which to declare unilateral lawless powers to reject Electoral Faculty votes from the states. So I feel he has numerous related proof, and I might hope he would come ahead and testify about what occurred–
MAJOR GARRETT: Voluntarily or view- through subpoena?
REP. RASKIN:
Properly, we're making an attempt to get all people to return ahead voluntarily–
MAJOR GARRETT: However the subpoena's not out of query?
REP RASKIN: In nobody's case is a subpoena out of query, however I might assume he will come ahead and testify voluntarily, the best way the overwhelming majority of individuals have.
MAJOR GARRETT: One of many mandates of this committee is to create laws. 10 Republicans on the Senate facet have signed on to an Electoral Depend Act revision. Is there a invoice on the Home facet? Will there be and do you anticipate this to be up to date and resolved legislatively, both earlier than the midterms or within the lame duck session?
REP. RASKIN: Properly, we wish to take a much wider view, I feel. I imply, the narrowest factor you might say is, nicely, the vp would not have the facility to unilaterally rebuff Electoral Faculty votes from the state–
MAJOR GARRETT: Make clear that.
REP. RASKIN: –However yeah, but when that is all we do, in a sure sense, it is validating Donald Trump's argument that there was any ambiguity about it within the first place, which there was not. No vp had ever tried to reject Electoral Faculty votes and Mike Pence and his group finally mentioned it was ridiculous. So I feel we have to take a much wider view about Donald Trump's assault on the whole electoral faculty course of and the whole Democratic course of from the counties and the cities and the cities by way of the states all the best way as much as the federal authorities. So I feel we acquired to defend the fitting to vote in democracy itself.
MAJOR GARRETT: Does that imply the Senate invoice can be unacceptable in the home?
REP. RASKIN: No, I feel it is a- it is a good first begin. It is a good first provide. However I feel we have to look way more systematically at what Donald Trump was making an attempt to do. And we have seen, for instance, when he known as Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, and mentioned, simply discover me 11,781 votes, after they tried to intimidate election officers. This was a much more sweeping plot than simply what occurred within the final couple of hours there.
MAJOR GARRETT: We've lower than a minute, one among your colleagues on the committee, Adam Kinzinger, mentioned the subsequent step for the committee is to look into the cash behind and the cash being made off of the massive lie. True?
REP. RASKIN: That was an necessary diploma, an necessary dimension of all the pieces that was taking place. This was a Donald Trump operation. So it was at all times an effort to–
MAJOR GARRETT: However, will that be introduced within the public presentation of that committee coming ahead.
REP. RASKIN: It's going to undoubtedly be a part of our report and whether or not, you realize, it comes up once more within the hearings. I can not say but as a result of we're nonetheless working all of that out.
MAJOR GARRETT: There may be a lot anticipation within the nation's capital, presumably throughout the nation within the report propounded by the committee. When can the nation anticipate to see that?
REP. RASKIN: Properly, actually by the tip of the yr, as a result of, you realize, we're like Cinderella, at midnight, our license runs out on the finish of the yr. However beneath Home Decision 503, that is a major a part of our duty to report back to the American folks about the best way to forestall coups, insurrections, political violence and assaults on our democratic course of going ahead.
MAJOR GARRETT: Maryland Congressman Jamie Raskin, thanks a lot.
REP. RASKIN: Thanks for having me Main.
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