Full transcript of "Face the Nation" on July 24, 2022

On this "Face the Nation" broadcast moderated by Margaret Brennan:

  • Dr. Ashish Jha, White Home COVID-19 response coordinator
  • Rep. Adam Schiff, Democrat of California
  • Miami Mayor Francis Suarez
  • Oksana Markarova, Ukrainian ambassador to the U.S.
  • Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo

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MARGARET BRENNAN: I am Margaret Brennan in Washington.

And this week on Face the Nation: President Biden is battling a COVID an infection, because the world prepares for one more well being disaster.

Practically two-and-a-half years into the COVID pandemic, President Biden is experiencing what hundreds of thousands of Individuals have gone by way of, a bout of what would be the newest mutation of COVID.

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JOE BIDEN (President of the USA): I am doing properly, getting loads of work achieved.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: However the nation is going through one other well being disaster because the speedy unfold of monkeypox prompts the World Well being Group to declare a world emergency.

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TEDROS ADHANOM GHEBREYESUS (Director Normal, World Well being Group): That is an outbreak that may be stopped with the best methods.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: We'll focus on the technique for holding monkeypox, the evolving risk of COVID, and the president's personal prognosis with White Home coronavirus response coordinator Dr. Ashish Jha.

In the meantime, a harmful warmth wave rolls by way of the U.S., bringing with it intensifying drought and raging wildfires. We'll hear from the mayor of Miami Republican, Francis Suarez, about how his front-line metropolis is making ready for rising sea ranges and excessive climate.

And with the president's environmental agenda stalled in Congress, we are going to ask Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo about what's subsequent for local weather and competitors with China.

Then: The committee investigating the January 6 assault on the Capitol reveals new particulars about former President Trump's conduct throughout and after the assault.

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DONALD TRUMP (Former President of the USA): I do not need to say the election is over.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: Will the revelations have any authorized or political influence on Mr. Trump's future?

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FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: If I introduced that I used to be not going to run for workplace, the persecution of Donald Trump would instantly cease.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: We'll verify in with California Democratic Congressman Adam Schiff, a member of the Choose Committee.

And simply hours after a U.N.-brokered deal was signed to launch important Ukrainian grain exports, Russia bombs the very ports the place they're saved. Because the struggle continues to roil the worldwide financial system, we are going to speak with Ukraine's Ambassador to the U.S. Oksana Markarova.

It is all simply forward on Face the Nation.

Good morning, and welcome to Face the Nation. Now we have loads of information to get by way of this morning.

However we need to start on the medical beat with the newest on President Biden's situation and the battle to comprise each COVID and monkeypox.

We're joined now by White Home Coronavirus Response Coordinator Dr. Ashish Jha.

Welcome to Face the Nation.

DR. ASHISH JHA (White Home COVID-19 Response Coordinator): Good Morning, Margaret. Thanks for having me right here.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Effectively, the White Home doctor has stated that it is the BA.5 variant that probably contaminated the president. That is the dominant variant throughout the nation proper now. It is extremely transmissible. How is the president's well being? And have you learnt the place he acquired it?

DR. ASHISH JHA: Sure, so it's the BA.5 variant, which is, as you stated, is about 80 p.c of infections.

The president's doing properly. I checked in together with his staff late final evening. He was feeling properly. He had a superb day yesterday. He is acquired a viral syndrome, an higher respiratory an infection that's -- and he is doing simply high-quality.

MARGARET BRENNAN: There's so little identified about lengthy COVID, however given the president's age, do you anticipate that the White Home will proceed to make disclosures if he has long-term signs from this an infection?

DR. ASHISH JHA: Sure, completely.

You realize, we expect it is actually necessary for the American individuals to understand how properly the president's doing, which is why we now have been so clear, giving updates a number of instances a day, having individuals hear from me immediately, hear immediately from his doctor.

And, clearly, if he has persistent signs, clearly, if any of them intrude together with his capability to hold out his duties, we are going to -- we are going to disclose that early and sometimes with the American individuals.

MARGARET BRENNAN: About six out of 10 Individuals, in line with CDC, dwell in areas of excessive transmission proper now. That features main cities like New York, Phoenix, Miami.

There aren't any indoor masks mandates there. Does that concern you?

DR. ASHISH JHA: In areas of excessive transmission, I feel it's extremely prudent for individuals to be sporting masks indoors, particularly in the event that they're in crowded, poorly ventilated areas. That is what the CDC recommends.

MARGARET BRENNAN: I additionally need to ask you about this different well being problem with monkeypox.

The World Well being Group yesterday declared it a public well being emergency of worldwide concern. That is the very best stage of alert. The Biden administration, particularly HHS, has stopped in need of doing that.

Must you declare it a pandemic? Must you declare it a public well being emergency?

DR. ASHISH JHA: We're seeing outbreaks which are uncontrolled in lots of, many elements of the world. It is essential that we get our arms round this factor.

MARGARET BRENNAN: However is it an emergency right here?

DR. ASHISH JHA: In the USA -- properly, within the -- within the U.S., proper now, we're taking a look at public well being emergency as a -- as one thing that HHS would possibly ship, however -- I imply, would possibly invoke, nevertheless it actually depends upon, what does that enable us to do?

Proper now, we now have over 2,000 instances, however we now have ramped up vaccinations, ramped up remedies, ramped up testing, and we will proceed to have a look at all type of coverage choices.

MARGARET BRENNAN: You stated again in Could that you simply assume we are able to get our arms round this. You stated monkeypox is a virus that we perceive.

Are you saying at the moment, similar to then, you assume monkeypox might be contained?

DR. ASHISH JHA: I do assume monkeypox might be contained, completely.

The way in which we comprise monkeypox is, we now have a quite simple, simple technique on this, proper, which is make testing extensively out there. Now we have achieved that. And now testing is much extra frequent and customary.

MARGARET BRENNAN: It was gradual.

DR. ASHISH JHA: Get vaccines out.

Sure, however we now have proper now the capability to do 90,000 checks per week -- I am sorry -- 80,000 checks per week. That is a unprecedented quantity. We'll be releasing a whole bunch of 1000's of extra vaccines within the subsequent days and weeks. So, there's a very substantial ramping up of response that's taking place proper now.

MARGARET BRENNAN: However I requested you about containment since you might have shifted allocation earlier, surged it in a different way, sooner switching from at-risk people to areas the place there are energetic excessive case counts and an outbreak.

The CDC director stated just some days in the past her company has no information on who has been vaccinated. She stated there's one key necessary similarity with COVID and with monkeypox, and that's the CDC's lack of ability to see information in actual time.

So this appears to be nonetheless a problem for our well being companies to behave rapidly to comprise an outbreak. This can be a downside.

DR. ASHISH JHA: Sure, so what I'd -- I'd remind us is that public well being in America has all the time been led by states.

It can be crucial for states to be sharing information with CDC. We have been working with states throughout the nation. Numerous states have been forthcoming. And my expectation is that, within the days and weeks forward, we're going to have the ability to get increasingly more information from states. And that can assist us perceive the nationwide image a bit extra -- in a bit extra element.

However we do have a reasonably good really feel proper now for a way widespread monkeypox is, as I stated, about 2,000 or so instances throughout the nation.

MARGARET BRENNAN: A fellow Democrat, Congressman Adam Schiff, who will likely be on this program at the moment, despatched a letter to HHS, saying: "The federal authorities is falling in need of the response that's wanted. Skyrocketing instances, restricted vaccination provide worldwide means that the monkeypox virus will proceed to unfold for years to come back, if not indefinitely."

Is monkeypox now endemic? Will it proceed to unfold indefinitely?

DR. ASHISH JHA: Effectively, it's endemic in sure elements of the world. It's not endemic right here in the USA.

MARGARET BRENNAN: I am asking about right here.

DR. ASHISH JHA: And the plan right here could be very simple.

We -- the plan is to eradicate this virus from the USA. I feel we are able to do this. We have got the vaccines and we have got the diagnostic checks.

MARGARET BRENNAN: There at the moment are two youngsters with it that the CDC is aware of of, at the least, and the CDC stated each of those youngsters are traced again to people who come from the men-who-have-sex-with-men group.

How actively is that this being unfold? And are you continue to solely speaking in regards to the homosexual group since you're solely trying there?

DR. ASHISH JHA: Sure, so we clearly know that this virus is spreading largely within the -- within the homosexual group, amongst males who've intercourse with males.

However, clearly, there are different people who find themselves in danger as properly, individuals they work together with, individuals -- anyone who has monkeypox can unfold it to others. It's by way of skin-to-skin contact, direct and extended contact.

We're doing a really broad surveillance. For this reason not solely have we ramped up testing capability. We're -- we're encouraging physicians, working with doctor teams to do extra broad-scale testing.

MARGARET BRENNAN: I need to ask you about one different challenge proper now.

We heard within the state of New York, the primary case of polio in almost a decade was confirmed in an unvaccinated 20-year-old man in Rockland County, New York. He was hospitalized again in June. Are there different instances? And if he was contaminated again in June, why are we solely now listening to about it?

DR. ASHISH JHA: Sure, so this can be a place the place the CDC is working very carefully with the Division of Well being. It's in an unvaccinated particular person.

Fortunately, most Individuals are vaccinated in opposition to polio. Many of the world is vaccinated in opposition to polio. If -- clearly, if you happen to're not vaccinated in opposition to polio, critically necessary.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Proper. Effectively, I've a small little one. It takes time to get totally vaccinated. Ought to I be involved that there are polio instances spreading in New York and in the USA?

DR. ASHISH JHA: There's loads of surveillance that we do for polio. There's wastewater surveillance that goes on.

We aren't seeing outbreaks of polio elsewhere. However I don't anticipate polio to develop into extra widespread within the nation, once more, as a result of so many Individuals are vaccinated in opposition to this.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Dr. Jha, thanks on your time this morning.

Face the Nation will likely be again in a second. Stick with us.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: We now flip to the January 6 investigation and the newest findings from the Home Choose Committee investigating the assault on the Capitol.

On Thursday, the committee detailed hours of inaction by President Trump in the course of the assault as he sat in his eating room, watched the violence unfold on tv and selected to do nothing to cease the siege of Congress, regardless of pleas by advisers, Republican lawmakers and allies.

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GEN. MARK MILLEY (Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Workers): You realize, you are the commander in chief. You've got acquired an assault occurring, on the Capitol of the USA of America. And there is nothing? No name? Nothing? Zero?

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MARGARET BRENNAN: We discovered that Secret Service brokers defending Vice President Mike Pence feared for his or her lives.

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WHITE HOUSE SECURITY OFFICIAL: There have been calls to say goodbye to relations, so on and so forth. The V.P. element thought that this was about to get very ugly.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: And we noticed for the primary time prime congressional leaders working with the performing secretary of protection to get again to certifying the electoral votes.

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SENATOR CHUCK SCHUMER (D-New York): The earliest we might safely resume?

CHRISTOPHER MILLER (Former Appearing U.S. Secretary of Protection): I -- here is my evaluation. I'd say, finest case, we're taking a look at 4 to 5 hours.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: The hearings so far have featured a variety of witnesses, however the by way of line of almost all of the testimony has been former President Trump and his relentless efforts to overturn his loss within the 2020 election.

Committee members say the investigation is much from over, with extra hearings deliberate for September 20.

Becoming a member of us now could be a member of that panel, Congressman Adam Schiff of California, who can be the chair of the Home Intelligence Committee.

Good to have you ever right here with us.

REPRESENTATIVE ADAM SCHIFF (D-California): Thanks.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Earlier than I'm going additional on January 6, I do need to rapidly simply button up what Dr. Jha addressed in regard to that letter you wrote this week in regard to monkeypox.

You stated the federal response falls brief by way of provide and timeliness relating to a vaccine. The present provide accounts for less than 3.5 half million residents. Some shipments should not even anticipated to reach till 2023.

Why do you assume the federal response is failing, when Dr. Jha says it is contained and below management?

REPRESENTATIVE ADAM SCHIFF: I do not know why there aren't extra vaccines out there.

I am listening to from well being care suppliers in my district that there are individuals lining as much as get vaccinated they usually haven't got the vaccines for them, and that may be a actual downside.

As I feel you indicated, we actually do not know the long run course of this virus. However what we do now, early on, simply as was the case with the pandemic, will decide simply how unhealthy this will likely get. And so I need to mild a fireplace below the administration and get them to make it possible for we up manufacturing, that we up distribution and that folks which are prepared and prepared and capable of get vaccinated have the power to guard themselves.

MARGARET BRENNAN: We'll proceed monitoring that on this program.

However let me get again to January 6. While you had been final on this program, you stated you believed that it will be extra harmful for the Justice Division to resolve in opposition to prosecuting the previous president than it will be to go forward with a prosecution.

This is how Lawyer Normal Merrick Garland responded when my colleague Jeff Pegues requested him about potential prosecution.

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MERRICK GARLAND (U.S. Lawyer Normal): Look, no particular person is above the regulation on this nation. Nothing stops us.

JEFF PEGUES: Even a former president?

ATTORNEY GENERAL MERRICK GARLAND: No -- I do not know learn how to -- perhaps I'll say that once more. No particular person is above the regulation on this nation.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: What do you make of these remarks?

REPRESENTATIVE ADAM SCHIFF: Effectively, the legal professional normal is dedicated to following the proof to wherever it might lead. And it has led to Donald Trump.

And so I feel the president needs to be investigated. Whether or not they'll in the end conclude they've proved past affordable doubt to cost him and to convict him, that is -- that can or not it's as much as the division.

However what we now have demonstrated simply within the final couple of hearings is that, when all else failed, when all these different traces of effort to overturn the election failed, he made the choice to convey a mob to the Capitol. When he discovered they had been armed, his response was, then take the magnetometers down.

He wished to march with that mob, that armed and harmful mob, to the Capitol. And when he was refused and delivered to the security of the cafeteria or the Eating Room of the White Home, he would not elevate a finger as he watched on TV cops being overwhelmed and gouged and sprayed with chemical substances, in probably the most supreme dereliction of obligation ever.

However, additionally, these a number of traces of effort, I feel, invoke varied prison legal guidelines. And his conduct should be the topic of investigation.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Effectively, we'll see if the Justice Division begins one.

On the issues that the committee has specified by this congressional discussion board, we nonetheless have not seen a direct hyperlink substantiated between the White Home officers and the militias just like the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers who had been a part of the violence that day. Are you continue to attempting to substantiate that?

REPRESENTATIVE ADAM SCHIFF: That continues to be an ongoing a part of our investigation. Now we have definitely proven some hyperlinks between the president, the important thing advisers like Roger Stone and Mike Flynn, and components of those white nationalist teams.

However that part of our investigation continues. And, as is the case extra broadly, witnesses proceed to come back ahead. We'll be presenting new info within the fall. However, as we proceed to ask about extra proof, I feel we actually want to consider what we have demonstrated already in regards to the president's data that the election wasn't stolen and his response and his intent.

And, to me, that's most graphically demonstrated when he advised prime Justice Division officers principally to say -- simply say the election was stolen or simply say it was corrupt, and that he would care for the remaining.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Proper.

REPRESENTATIVE ADAM SCHIFF: These form of items of testimony, they're immediately on the president's data and intent.

And this will get again to your earlier query in regards to the Justice Division. I hope they're watching. I hope they're watching fastidiously, and I hope they perceive the implications of what we're presenting.

MARGARET BRENNAN: With regards to implications, your colleague Liz Cheney was on two different networks this morning, and she or he stated that you simply all are discussing a possible subpoena for Ginni Thomas, who's married to Supreme Court docket Justice Clarence Thomas.

Are there traces that should not be crossed right here in relation to the Supreme Court docket? As a result of one of many objections to the premise of a subpoena right here is that it -- it units a harmful precedent by placing the partner of a justice on this political discussion board.

REPRESENTATIVE ADAM SCHIFF: There are traces that should not be crossed, however these traces contain sitting Supreme Court docket justices not presiding or showing or taking motion in instances during which their partner could also be implicated.

And, on this case, for Clarence Thomas to challenge a choice in a case, a dissent in a case the place Congress is attempting to get paperwork, and people paperwork would possibly contain his personal spouse, that is the road that is been crossed.

And I feel, for Congress to be trying into these points, trying into battle of curiosity points, however, right here, trying into points, whether or not it entails the spouse of a Supreme Court docket justice or anybody else, if they've info or function in an effort to overturn an election, sure, they don't seem to be excluded from examination.

MARGARET BRENNAN: It sounds such as you're saying you prefer that subpoena?

REPRESENTATIVE ADAM SCHIFF: Effectively, I -- if she has related info or investigation, we hope she is available in voluntarily.

But when she does not, then we must always give that severe consideration. And, sure, I feel people who we resolve have necessary sufficient info needs to be subpoenaed.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Congresswoman Cheney additionally stated the committee expects to listen to once more from Tony Ornato, that lead Secret Service agent, and that each he and one other have employed non-public prison protection counsel.

What does that counsel to you?

REPRESENTATIVE ADAM SCHIFF: Effectively, I feel, in the event that they're hiring prison protection counsel, then they most likely have a priority about their potential prison legal responsibility.

We need to hear from these witnesses. Some, we need to hear from once more. We need to put them below oath, in the event that they weren't beforehand below oath, in order that we are able to perceive precisely what was taking place on January 5 and January 6.

And we now have profound considerations about what is going on on on the Secret Service. We at the moment are, for the primary time, getting paperwork that we had requested lengthy, way back. There's one challenge about why they weren't supplied earlier, however they're additionally exhibiting us some new issues.

And, moreover, we need to acquire these textual content messages, if there's any method to retrieve them. However, both method, we need to get solutions as to why these had been destroyed.

MARGARET BRENNAN: All proper, we are going to proceed to observe what the committee does once you reconvene within the fall.

Thanks very a lot, Congressman.

And for a better have a look at what the hearings have revealed in regards to the former president, we're joined now by CBS Information chief political analyst John Dickerson.

John, it is good to speak to you. We had been aspect by aspect simply on Thursday evening throughout these prime-time broadcasts of the hearings; 17 million Individuals watched them. However this can be a political course of earlier than Congress. It is not a authorized one, as we simply mentioned.

How will we begin to assess the influence?

JOHN DICKERSON: Effectively, it is good to be with you, Margaret.

I feel the influence of this Thursday's listening to was totally different than all the opposite hearings. When Donald Trump typically boasted about refusing to behave as president, the implications appeared far off.

What Thursday confirmed was probably the most direct connection between Donald Trump selecting to not act as president and the dire penalties of doing so.

So, as Individuals watched January 6, most of them had been heartsick. They thought -- they wished one thing might be achieved. What might be achieved? Donald Trump watched additionally. And he might do one thing. It was his obligation as president to protect, to guard and defend. He did nothing.

His household known as him and stated, due to your particular connection to the rioters flying your flag, it's best to do one thing. He did nothing.

So, for 3 hours, whereas he watched what everyone else was watching, he didn't reply. And that's the most clear illustration of his refusal to do the job and really doing the job.

So what was superb about Thursday was not the precise testimony, which was superb, however that nobody can testify that he took actions constant together with his job, not the witnesses who talked about what he did not do, however that nobody can bear witness to him doing the job as commander in chief.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Proper.

And that was -- that inaction was one thing Congressman Kinzinger put his finger on. And he was on one other community this morning saying that, in relation to the hearings, for Republicans basically, this does not seem like having a ton of influence.

And I assumed that was fascinating as a result of, once you open "The Wall Avenue Journal" editorial web page, "The New York Put up," it drew loads of consideration that they each had been unusually harsh of their criticism of the previous president prior to now few days.

"The Journal" wrote: "Character is revealed in a disaster. Mr. Pence handed his January 6 trial. Mr. Trump completely failed his."

How will we assess the place the conservative motion is on this?

JOHN DICKERSON: Effectively, we are going to -- we must see. Donald Trump's popularity is in flux.

After we take into consideration the Republican Get together, it is acquired form of two challenges. And there are loads of tensions in an election 12 months, two challenges and one factor that is going properly for it.

In the event you consider Donald Trump, the problem is, he has been judged by the leaders of his occasion, Mitch McConnell within the Senate, Kevin McCarthy within the Home, Mike Pence, as having failed in a elementary obligation of the job.

So, how does a celebration go ahead, when its hottest chief has failed at a core job in a democracy? The opposite problem is within the motion of people that have a look at what occurred on January 6 and assume that the rioters did not go far sufficient, who've an apocalyptic sense of politics and assume that something goes if you happen to demonize the opposite aspect sufficiently. These are two issues and challenges for the Republican Get together.

The upside for Republicans in the meanwhile, which is able to trigger them to push that seaside ball below the water, is that they have a really favorable political atmosphere, with Joe Biden's weak point, Democratic lack of enthusiasm, and the overall historic pattern that the occasion out of energy does properly within the midterms.

All of these issues will encourage Republicans to depart their issues to the aspect for the hopes of profitable energy again.

MARGARET BRENNAN: What do you assume that legacy of Trumpism is? Is it blow up the system?

JOHN DICKERSON: Effectively, the legacy because it's come by way of these hearings, let's take into consideration what these hearings have lifted and what it means.

It form of goes past Donald Trump, nevertheless it goes to the 2 challenges of a -- in a democracy. One of many issues we now have seen in these hearings is that individuals who had been challenged and below stress of the Trump administration and Donald Trump, they did the best factor below stress. And we now have seen that for weeks.

The opposite problem, although, is the individuals who knew higher and did not act.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Proper.

JOHN DICKERSON: Which of these two wins out?

MARGARET BRENNAN: John Dickerson, all the time good to speak with you.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: A brutal and sweltering heatwave is impacting massive swaths of the nation this weekend. Temperatures are anticipated to interrupt information at the moment in states throughout the northeast and the center of the nation as cities brace for warmth indices of 100 levels or extra.

CBS Information senior nationwide correspondent Mark Strassmann is in Tampa Bay with this report.

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MARK STRASSMANN (voice over): There's this southern expression, even Devil's sweating at the moment.

WOMAN: It is too scorching - it is too scorching proper now.

MAN: That is scorching. That is brutal. Brutal.

MARK STRASSMANN: Higher get used to brutal.

At the moment's blowtorch forecast, plenty of triple digit highs. Warmth alerts once more for greater than 80 million Individuals. For a lot of of them, that warmth is taken into account harmful.

Locations like Texas, the place this heatwave looks like a siege of standing proper subsequent to one of many wildfires burning close to Fort Price or California close to Yosemite. Greater than 5 dozen communities in 20 states this previous week hit document highs.

MARK STRASSMANN (on digicam): Take Tampa Bay, hit for a lot of the final week by scorching, humid winds off the Gulf of Mexico. The day by day excessive for the feels- like temperature between 102 and 107.

MARK STRASSMANN (voice over): Texas and California have had highs of 115. Overheated individuals in Dallas hunted for air-con wherever. Libraries appeared cool once more. Geoscientist blamed inaction on local weather change and warned scorching home summers are right here to remain.

JOELLEN L. RUSSELL, PROFESSOR, UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA: These are spectacularly powerful issues they usually're solely going to worsen until we sort out the issue with the whole lot we have got.

MARK STRASSMANN: Europe's week of warmth was historic and lethal. 1000's died. Most of them, aged. Wildfires in Spain. Within the U.Ok., the place central air is uncommon, temperatures reached 36 levels above regular. Portugal's excessive, 117.

On each side of the Atlantic, individuals have shared triple digit distress, and speaking in regards to the climate has meant greater than making small speak.

WOMAN: They need to take it significantly as a result of heat-related diseases might be life-threatening.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: That was Mark Strassmann reporting.

We flip now to Miami Mayor Francis Suarez. He's a Republican and the present chairman of the U.S. Convention of Mayors. He joins us from Miami.

Mr. Mayor, good to have you ever with us.

You simply heard our reporting there. You realize, on this 2,000-page report, the U.N. put out earlier within the 12 months, it refers to Florida for example of a spot the place the impacts of local weather change are already being felt. And it mentions persons are probably going to have to maneuver away in the event that they dwell on the shoreline.

You and your metropolis have needed to give you a technique and the one launched would spend 4 billion, 3.8 billion, over the following few many years to construct seawalls, take different measures. That is quadruple your annual working funds.

Are you able to afford what's coming?

MAYOR FRANCIS SUAREZ (R-Miami): Effectively, initially, Margaret, it is not theoretical for us within the metropolis of Miami. It is actual. We cope with it day in and time out, 12 months after 12 months. We have been dedicating an incredible quantity of sources, updating our constructing codes over many years since 1992 once we had a 200 mile per hour occasion known as Hurricane Andrew.

Now, our newest problem, in fact, is the water and the warmth, as you have stated within the prior phase, and we -- our residents accredited proper after Hurricane Irma in 2017, which created a 4 to 6 foot storm surge in our central enterprise district, a plan known as Miami Ceaselessly. And the idea of the plan is to spend a whole bunch of hundreds of thousands of dollars what had been voter accredited, there was really a voter accredited tax, and mix them with different funding sources, just like the state and federal authorities, to have the ability to improve our infrastructure to cope with all of the issues which are being thrown our method from mom nature.

MARGARET BRENNAN: However once you stated you possibly can't afford to not take it significantly, I ponder if you happen to assume the nationwide Republican Get together takes the issue of local weather change significantly.

FRANCIS SUAREZ: Effectively, what we're seeing on the nationwide stage is that the one motion that's occurring is motion that is taken in a bipartisan foundation. The Democrats, sadly, have failed to have the ability to move payments to handle local weather at any type of scale. So, the infrastructure invoice, which was lately handed --

MARGARET BRENNAN: Effectively, they haven't any Republican votes. Additionally they haven't got all Democrats onboard, however it will assist if that they had Republican votes.

FRANCIS SUAREZ: Proper. Sure, precisely. Effectively, however - I feel what it means is that it must be bipartisan by way of their outreach, by way of their messaging, by way of, you understand, which is how they handed the, you understand, the $1.2 trillion infrastructure invoice with Republican votes. And we nonetheless have not seen any funding from that invoice, by the way in which. Like I stated, we devoted $200 million in funding from our metropolis residents.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Why not?

FRANCIS SUAREZ: We're -- that is a terrific query. You realize, they've a terrific infrastructure czar, which is a former mayor of New Orleans, who was a president of the U.S. Convention of Mayors, who we work with, however we nonetheless haven't seen a penny of that cash trickle down, peculate all the way down to the cities, and we'd like it as a result of, as I've stated, we have devoted a few hundred million dollars.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.

FRANCIS SUAREZ: We have gotten about 30 or 40 million from the state. However we'd like considerably greater than that as you have indicated in your preliminary feedback.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So, there was this $2 trillion American Rescue Plan that handed again within the spring with zero Republican votes. Florida did profit. Republican Governor DeSantis allotted over 400 million to assist coastal communities in Florida. So, have you ever gotten that cash in your hand? And the way far more do you want precisely?

FRANCIS SUAREZ: Sure, we now have, really. The American Rescue Plan, our funds (ph), as you describe it, it is coming in two tranches, 950 billion final 12 months, 950 billion this 12 months. And we now have allotted it successfully. And we are attempting to leverage the cash that we now have to do issues like, you understand, growing our seawalls, tidal valves that stop the black move of water into our metropolis throughout storm occasions, pump stations, which we now have constructed increasingly more and are planning to construct considerably extra. So we're addressing the difficulty head on. And definitely the funding that we will be receiving from the state and from the federal authorities, hopefully, ultimately, from the infrastructure invoice, is critically wanted for us to have the ability to sort out this downside and make it possible for we now have Miami Ceaselessly.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So, we talked about you're a registered Republican. Mayor of the second largest metropolis in Florida.

While you had been on this program final, again in January, you advised me that you simply had repeatedly reached out to your governor, fellow Republican, to speak to him about well being precautions you wished to absorb Miami, however you had no contact, no outreach. And I ponder what you assume that claims about Ron DeSantis' govt management in a time of disaster?

FRANCIS SUAREZ: You realize, we're - we're totally different. Now we have totally different views and totally different personalities and totally different philosophies by way of our management type. You realize, we - you understand, I - we -- I lead, such as you stated, the most important -- arguably the most important city metropolis within the state. And his mandate is considerably better by way of quantity, nevertheless it's additionally very totally different by way of cities in rural areas. You realize, so, you understand, he --

MARGARET BRENNAN: Does he speak to you now? Does he speak to the mayor of the second largest metropolis within the state?

FRANCIS SUAREZ: We do. Now we have spoken on quite a lot of events. In actual fact, one of many ones that we spoke about lately occurred to be about resiliency. We really -- the state did give us about $40 million that we mixed with the $200 million and we did a press convention collectively in Broward County. So, on the atmosphere, I've to say, his document, over the past 4 years, together with the legislature's document, has been very a lot pro-environment and one thing that he and I share.

MARGARET BRENNAN: What about on problems with well being? I imply in relation to Covid, Florida's response has been closely scrutinized. Monkeypox, proper now, Florida has the third highest case rely of any state within the nation.

Are you, in Miami, getting the vaccines you want? Are you getting the testing you want? Has that a part of the well being rollout working with the state been clean?

FRANCIS SUAREZ: You realize, we're monitoring this outbreak, as you talked about. I'm not conscious of any shortages in vaccines or testing at this explicit juncture. None of it has been -- you understand, come to my consideration. However definitely we'll work with the state and definitely we'll work with the federal authorities to make it possible for our metropolis is protected and that these right here get the required testing and vaccination to guard themselves in opposition to the monkeypox virus.

MARGARET BRENNAN: All proper, Mayor Suarez, thanks on your time at the moment.

And we'll be proper again.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: At the moment marks 5 months since Russia launched a full- scale struggle on Ukraine. The invasion has price tens of 1000's of lives and it has roiled the worldwide financial system. For a have a look at the place the battle stands now, we're joined by Ukraine' ambassador to the USA, Oksana Markarova.

Madam Ambassador, it is good to have you ever again on this system.

OKSANA MARKAROVA (Ukrainian Ambassador to the U.S.): Good morning and thanks for having me.

MARGARET BRENNAN: I need to ask you about what occurred prior to now 24 to 48 hours. There's an estimated 20 million metric tons of grain caught in Ukraine, cannot get out. That is contributing to meals inflation and meals shortages world wide. So lower than 24 hours after signing this U.N. brokered deal to permit Ukraine's grain to export, Russia despatched missiles into the Odessa port metropolis the place that grain can be transiting. That is what the State Division says. Your authorities stated it is like spit within the face of the U.N. and Turkey. However you are sticking with the deal? Why?

OKSANA MARKAROVA: Effectively, what occurred within the port is so Russian and it's extremely telling about what has been taking place for the previous eight years. For the previous eight years, Ukraine all the time acted in good religion and tried the whole lot doable and typically unattainable to finish the struggle and to return our sovereignty. Comparable was this 151 days. We're defending. We're standing sturdy in defending our nation.

And, on the identical time, we are going to discover any choices in an effort to resolve the disaster. It is like this meals disaster that Russia has created for different international locations, not just for Ukraine. So, we are going to do the whole lot in an effort to carry out and fulfill our a part of the deal.

Now, when Russia is violating it, they're clearly exhibiting who they're and that they have to be stopped.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So is Russia technically violating it? As a result of unnamed U.N. officers are quoted as saying they might not have --because Russia by no means pledged to keep away from attacking the elements of the Ukrainian ports that aren't immediately used for grain exports. Actually? That looks as if a reasonably large oversight.

OKSANA MARKAROVA: Effectively, let's name it what it's. All the things Russia is doing in Ukraine is a violation of just about each worldwide regulation. Attacking a sovereign nation is a violation. It is a struggle crime. So, we now have the cope with U.N. and with our colleagues from Turkey. We're fulfilling the deal. They agreed additionally with Russia they usually should first cease the struggle, you understand, they usually should do the whole lot with out even any initiative indicators.

However, with this, I feel they're simply exhibiting their true face once more. So, the great response to that needs to be extra weapons to Ukraine in order that we are able to defend ourselves, we are able to get them out from our nation, and we are able to unblock our ports and unblock all Ukraine so as not solely to ship the grain, however the sunflower and the whole lot else that's being caught in Ukraine.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Proper. That influence your child system.

OKSANA MARKAROVA: Completely.

MARGARET BRENNAN: That impacts meals stops (ph) for the whole lot.

However - however does this assault make it - make that meals disaster worse? Will this harm your capability to export what little is getting out?

OKSANA MARKAROVA: We'll do the whole lot doable. And we're exporting even now, by way of the western border, in fact, the capability -

MARGARET BRENNAN: By means of land.

OKSANA MARKAROVA: By means of land, by way of railroads, by way of all doable methods. And we are going to proceed doing so. Our farmers are even planting and harvesting below the hearth. So, we are going to, as we defend the nation, we are going to proceed additionally to rebuild on the identical time and plant and do the whole lot doable to feed us and feed the world. Hopefully, and we see already good outcomes of the brand new HIMARS and artillery being supplied to us, that can enable us to go on to - on the counter offensive and free our territory, which we have to don't just for grain, but additionally to save lots of our individuals.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So your first girl was right here in Washington and addressed Congress and particularly requested for air protection methods. We all know the U.S. has pledged to ship nationwide advance surface-to-air missile methods, however they have not really arrived in Ukraine but. Is that what she was referring to and what particularly are you asking for?

OKSANA MARKAROVA: Sure, very efficient go to of the primary girl and her message that -- whereas Russia kills, America saves, I feel have been heard by everybody right here. And, sure, we're speaking in regards to the (INAUDIBLE) and different air protection methods. We're additionally speaking about extra firepower, extra artillery, extra HIMARS, which simply final Friday we heard the announcement of extra coming.

MARGARET BRENNAN: These are precision guided rockets?

OKSANA MARKAROVA: Precisely. And we already see that with that tools, that could be very successfully utilized by our defenders, we're capable of destroy the ammo dumps that Russia is creating on the uncontrolled territories and that we really are shifting into free and extra territories within the south and, hopefully, with adequate variety of weapons, we are able to do the identical within the east. However the scenario stays very, very troublesome nonetheless.

MARGARET BRENNAN: It's. And we all know now - U.S. intelligence says Russia controls about 20 p.c of Ukraine.

OKSANA MARKAROVA: That's right.

MARGARET BRENNAN: I need to make it possible for I convey this up with you as a result of it was so deeply disturbing after I heard it. A State Division official, Ambassador Victoria Nuland, stated, Russia makes orphans after which it steals orphans. She stated as much as 1,000 Ukrainian youngsters have been stolen and given to Russian households. What precisely is occurring? What can the U.S. authorities or the American individuals do about it?

OKSANA MARKAROVA: It has been one of many key pleas of the primary girl right here on all uncontrolled territories, from Mariupol to different locations, Russia is forcefully deporting not solely adults and households, however particularly youngsters. And Russians themselves already admitted that 350,000 youngsters have been evacuated, as they are saying, however kidnapped. Let's name it the way in which -- what it's, to Russia. They've relaxed their very own laws in an effort to enable them to be adopted rapidly into Russian households.

This can be a brutal violation, not solely of worldwide regulation, however of frequent decency. How are you going to steal our youngsters and attempt to disguise them someplace in Russia? Solely 47 youngsters had been capable of return to Ukraine proper now. And as of August 1st, Ukraine will likely be beginning a platform, Youngsters at Warfare, which is able to enable individuals all through the globe, together with Russia, so as to add info they -- about all the youngsters. It is our first precedence to find, discover them and return them. And it's extremely troublesome as a result of we do not have management over this territories.

MARGARET BRENNAN: And do you've got any hope which you can really return these youngsters with out the USA or different international locations getting concerned?

OKSANA MARKAROVA: We want everybody who can to get entangled. And I can guarantee you that everybody in Ukraine is not going to relaxation till all of them are situated and returned.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Ambassador, thanks very a lot on your time.

We'll be again in a second.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: We now need to flip to Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo.

Thanks for becoming a member of us.

GINA RAIMONDO (Secretary of Commerce): Thanks.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So you've got been making this large push for this chips invoice that will direct about 50 billion in the direction of the semiconductor trade. These are these laptop chips and telephones and dishwashers, weapons and principally the whole lot.

GINA RAIMONDO: In the whole lot. Sure.

MARGARET BRENNAN: The invoice now additionally has about $200 billion in extra spending, which I perceive you'd play a task in serving to to dole out ultimately.

For individuals at house, why ought to U.S. taxpayers subsidize a worthwhile trade?

GINA RAIMONDO: Proper now we're dangerously depending on different international locations, largely in Asia, for our provide of semiconductor. We do not make any leading- edge semiconductors in the USA. And people are the delicate chips that you simply want for navy tools and high-end computing. We purchase virtually all of them from Taiwan.

So, the truth is, we'd like firms to broaden in America. And different international locations world wide are offering incentives.

MARGARET BRENNAN: However does not rolling out state subsidies of personal trade create a harmful precedent, or are you arguing we're simply in a state of affairs the place we have to begin pondering of important industries as partially state funded or sponsored?

GINA RAIMONDO: Sure. What I am saying is, this can be a matter of nationwide safety and I do not assume we are able to put a price ticket on it as a result of we're in a really weak spot. So, if you happen to speak to the navy specialists or the nationwide protection contractors, you understand, they're going to inform you they want chips. There's 250 chips in a javelin launching system, and that is not as refined as a number of the new tools.

MARGARET BRENNAN: There is a lengthy checklist of issues Congress must get achieved in a really brief time period.

GINA RAIMONDO: I perceive that.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Are you assured that the votes are literally there to get this handed?

GINA RAIMONDO: Sure, I'm.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Sixteen Republicans voted to maneuver together with this.

GINA RAIMONDO: Sure. Sixteen Republicans.

MARGARET BRENNAN: However that is nonetheless not achieved. And - and it is being tweaked right here. So I need to ask you about a number of the issues which have been proposed.

You could have skeptics on each the best and the left for this, proper? Bernie Sanders has stated he does not prefer it. It is a clean verify to worthwhile firms. Rick Scott of Florida, Republican, has in contrast it to company welfare. A former labor secretary from the Clinton administration known as it pure extortion. That does not sound like that is really bipartisan, as you known as it. This seems like that is pretty controversial.

GINA RAIMONDO: No, I do not assume so. I imply it is clearly bipartisan. You aren't getting 64 votes within the Senate each day, proper? And --

MARGARET BRENNAN: On this remaining invoice, you assume, regardless of these detractors, it will move?

GINA RAIMONDO: This will likely be an enormous bipartisan vote within the Home and the Senate. Sure, I consider so.

Now, additionally I totally dispute Senator Sanders' characterization of this. It is not a clean verify. There are lots of strings hooked up. Strings hooked up, firms cannot use this cash to construct amenities in different international locations. Firms who settle for this cash cannot then flip round and be constructing amenities in China for modern expertise. There's loads of strings hooked up round, you understand, the standard of jobs that should be created, working with small contractors and minority-owned contractors. There are labor protections. So, to say it is a clean verify is simply useless flawed.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Are these adequate although?

GINA RAIMONDO: Sure.

MARGARET BRENNAN: As a result of you've got Marco Rubio of Florida popping out and arguing high-tech chip manufacturing needs to be additional type of restricted right here on the nationwide safety portion. He says that firms that obtain the funding can not broaden chip manufacturing in China, however there are some issues grandfathered in which are loopholes right here.

I imply are there different locations you must tighten up stricter export restrictions, for instance?

GINA RAIMONDO: Sure. We all the time should be taking a look at our export controls. So, I'd say, I really feel very comfy about this invoice. It protects nationwide safety and protects taxpayers. Additionally -

MARGARET BRENNAN: As written?

GINA RAIMONDO: As written. As written. There are - there are taxpayer protections. It will likely be a aggressive clear course of. And - and there is claw again provision. If we give the cash to firms they usually do what they don't seem to be presupposed to, we will take the cash again. I really feel very assured across the taxpayer protections and the China guardrails.

MARGARET BRENNAN: For different industries as properly?

GINA RAIMONDO For all expertise. Now we have to do the whole lot we are able to to make it possible for our modern expertise, whether or not it is in chips or synthetic intelligence or different areas, cannot get into the fingers of the Chinese language.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So that you're open to additional export restrictions?

GINA RAIMONDO: Sure.

MARGARET BRENNAN: On Taiwan, as a result of, you understand, embedded in that is the idea that Taiwan is in danger probably of annexation by China. How assured are you once you get briefed by U.S. intelligence that that is a direct risk?

GINA RAIMONDO: I really feel assured in saying it is not instant and I really feel additionally assured in saying that there is no crystal ball. However we have to be ready. That is our job, to guard the American individuals.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Has inflation peaked?

GINA RAIMONDO: I feel most likely. However, look, if I had stated that a 12 months in the past, you understand, assuming one other struggle does not escape, assuming we do not have one other Covid, assuming - you understand, there's a lot out of our management. What -- inflation is being -- inflation is a world downside.

MARGARET BRENNAN: I need to ask you as properly about local weather. NOAA is below your purview.

The local weather agenda for the administration is totally stalled. Is the truth that you have been unable to unstick that local weather agenda however you have moved this far with chips, does it sign to you that you must make non-public trade a accomplice on this?

GINA RAIMONDO: I'd say sure, however enterprise -- a lot of enterprise is onboard. Like, let's be trustworthy with ourselves. Local weather-related occasions are extra frequent, extra harmful, and dearer than they've ever been. So, do we have to do extra to get enterprise onboard? Possibly. And it is, you understand, one thing we're all the time questioning, how will we get issues achieved on this divided political atmosphere. However make no mistake about it. The local weather investments that the president proposed are good for the financial system and good for enterprise. And enterprise is aware of that.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Madam secretary, thanks very a lot for coming in and speaking to us at the moment.

GINA RAIMONDO: Thanks.

MARGARET BRENNAN: We will likely be proper again.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: That is it for us at the moment. Thanks for watching.

Tune in subsequent Sunday for our first CBS Information battleground tracker ballot on the upcoming midterm elections.

Till subsequent week, for FACE THE NATION, I am Margaret Brennan.

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