The next is a transcript of an interview with Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois that aired Sunday, Might 1, 2022, on "Face the Nation."
MARGARET BRENNAN: Welcome again to FACE THE NATION. The chairman for the committee investigating the January sixth assault on the US Capitol introduced a sequence of public hearings will probably be held in June with the very first one scheduled for the ninth. Congressman Adam Kinzinger of Illinois is a member of that committee and he joins us this morning. Good morning to you. Congressman, do you count on this to be extra of constructing a public narrative or will new data come to gentle in these hearings?
REP. ADAM KINZINGER: Effectively, I feel actually new data will come to gentle. I feel it is vital. You already know, we have been speaking about January sixth now for a yr and a half. It is vital for us to put the entire story out in entrance of the American individuals from each what led to January sixth, the lies after the election, the fundraising, the 187 minutes the president principally sat within the Oval Workplace and- and every thing since, together with the response by DOD. And it is vital for us to have the ability to put that in entrance of the American individuals, as a result of finally they need to be the choose. You already know, the Division of Justice will make choices primarily based on data, however the American individuals are going to be those that need to take the work we have completed and determine what they need to do with it or what they need to consider after that.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You already know, we maintain listening to from the committee, together with the chairman, that there will probably be members of Congress requested to come back and converse and reply your questions. And nonetheless none of them have come actually. Are you in favor of subpoenaing members? And if that's the case, who do you want to discuss to?
REP. KINZINGER: Effectively, I will not say who I feel we have to discuss to but. I imply, I feel all people wants to come back and discuss to us. We have requested data from numerous members by way of whether or not we transfer ahead with a subpoena goes to be each a strategic, tactical determination and a query of whether or not or not, , we will try this and get the knowledge in time.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Do you prefer one?
REP. KINZINGER: And people are choices we make daily. Yeah. I imply, I feel finally no matter we will do to get that data. I feel if that takes a subpoena, it takes a subpoena. However I feel the secret's, no matter even what some members of Congress are going to inform us, we all know quite a lot of data round it. We- proper now, we're sort of not even constructing a broader narrative. We're going deeper with richer and extra element to indicate the American individuals.
MARGARET BRENNAN: A lawyer for Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene stated this week she was not a participant within the January sixth violence. She was a sufferer. There have been textual content messages revealed this week through which she was discussing martial regulation with Mark Meadows, then chief of workers. Do you want to ask her a number of questions?
REP. KINZINGER: Yeah. I imply, I would like to ask her a number of questions. We all know some issues. I will not verify or deny the textual content messages, in fact. However let me simply say this for Marjorie Taylor Greene- Greene to say she's a sufferer, it is superb how, , of us like her assault all people for being a sufferer. I imply, she assaulted, I feel, a survivor's household from a college taking pictures sooner or later in D.C. She stood outdoors a congresswoman's workplace and yelled at her by means of a mail slot and stated she was too scared to come back out and confront her. After which when Marjorie Taylor Greene is confronted, she's abruptly a sufferer and a poor, helpless congresswoman that is simply attempting to do her job. It is insane. We wish the knowledge. Look, historical past shouldn't be going to guage her or individuals like her which are shopping for the large lie properly. I firmly consider that.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Vice President Mike Pence did the fitting factor by way of certifying the election. He's a central participant on this story. As a Republican, do you need to see him come ahead and really converse to you?
REP. KINZINGER: Sure. I'd like to see that. I hope he would achieve this voluntarily. These are choices I feel, that we will find yourself making from a tactical perspective within the subsequent week or two as we principally pin down what this listening to schedule goes to seem like, the content material and as we go into the total narrative of this factor. I'd hope and assume that the Vice President would need to are available and inform his story as a result of he did do the fitting factor on that day. If he does not, then we'll take a look at the choices we've got out there to us if there's data we do not have already got.
MARGARET BRENNAN: All proper. I do know you are not a fan of the previous president, however he's in some methods taking part in a really giant function in some upcoming primaries. In Ohio, particularly, J.D. Vance. He is endorsed a variety of different candidates: Pennsylvania, Herschel Walker, Georgia. If these hand-picked candidates find yourself profitable, is that this an indication that certainly Donald Trump remains to be the chief and kingmaker inside the occasion?
REP. KINZINGER: Yeah, I feel it could be an indication, and I feel there's- that is going to be a big- this main season goes to be a giant second to determine that out. So I've this group, Nation First, Country1st.com, and our focus is on taking part in in a few of these primaries to convey at the very least affordable individuals to the forefront and inspiring of us which are going to reside, as an example, in a assured Republican district, , vote in that main. It issues. And so, yeah, I do assume the first season's going to- going to inform. However take into account, the president's- the previous president's tactic right here, if someone begins falling behind within the polls, he at all times finds a motive to un-endorse them as a result of he does not like having a dropping observe document.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Effectively, J.D. Vance, that is what Might Third- While you say affordable individuals, you do not assume affordable individuals are voting within the Ohio Republican main for him?
REP. KINZINGER: Effectively, , look, from what I've seen, there's one at the very least perhaps affordable candidate. However no, I imply, look, if you- for those who're J.D. Vance two years in the past, , you are a very completely different J.D. Vance than you're at present. This can be a man that stated that he frankly does not care what occurs in Ukraine. It is similar to what individuals like Tucker Carlson have stated. Look, I imply, that may't for me as a Republican, that does not signify what I consider, and the occasion has to make the choice in the event that they need to be that sort of occasion or not.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Speaker Pelosi and high Democrats had been in Ukraine in a single day, as I am positive . Do you see impediments to getting this $33 billion that the president has requested to be handed?
REP. KINZINGER: I actually hope not. I imply, look, there's- we do have outliers of individuals that appear to indicate some Putin sympathy. However for essentially the most half, Congress is vastly and largely united on the problem of Ukraine. We acknowledge Ukraine is preventing for all of us. That $33 billion is considerably lower than what we must spend if we took Russia on straight. So I hope we haven't any impediments to that in any respect. I would not count on we do.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Senator Kane was with us and he stated it's too quickly to start speaking about potential use of pressure in Ukraine. Do you assume he is proper?
REP. KINZINGER: No, I do not. I do not assume we should be utilizing pressure in Ukraine proper now. I simply launched an AUMF, an authorization for using army pressure, giving the president principally congressional leverage or permission to make use of it if WMDs, nuclear, organic or chemical are utilized in Ukraine. Does not compel the president to do it. It simply says whether it is used, he has that leverage. It provides him, , a greater flexibility, but in addition it's a deterrent to Vladimir Putin. If Vladimir Putin needs to escalate with the West, he'll. It is easy for him to do it. And I feel proper now what we're doing with provide and with Lend-Lease, with the financing is true. However there could also be a degree that we've got to acknowledge, , look. That is- World Battle- previous to World Battle II, there have been moments no person ever needed to become involved and finally got here to understand they needed to. I hope we do not get to that time right here, however we needs to be prepared if we do.
MARGARET BRENNAN: All proper, Congressman Adam Kinzinger, thanks in your time at present. We'll be proper again.