The next is a transcript of an interview with Home Speaker Nancy Pelosi that aired Sunday, Could 8, 2022, on "Face the Nation."
MARGARET BRENNAN: And we go to the highest Democrat in Congress, Home Speaker Nancy Pelosi who joins us this Mom's Day from San Francisco. Pleased Mom's Day to you, Madam Speaker.
HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI: Thanks. Pleased Mom's Day to you, Margaret.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Thanks. And earlier than we get to abortion, we did have this shock go to on Mom's Day by the First Woman, Dr. Jill Biden, to Ukraine. Final Sunday, you had been in Kyiv assembly with Ukraine's president. How rapidly can Congress ship this 33 billion dollars in assist that has been promised?
SPEAKER PELOSI: I believe we will do it as rapidly as attainable. We now have nice bipartisanship when it comes to our assist for the struggle for democracy that the folks of Ukraine are making. We now have respect for the technique of the president of Ukraine, and now we have a recognition of the necessity for weapons, for sanct- extra weapons, extra sanctions, extra financial help and extra humanitarian help. I used to be very proud to be there with my colleagues to speak about these very particular points and our bipartisan assist for them.
MARGARET BRENNAN: And also you suppose you will get that finished earlier than the top of the month?
SPEAKER PELOSI: I believe now we have to.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay.
SPEAKER PELOSI: Yeah, I believe now we have to. The- the specificity with which we talk about these issues with the president- president of- of Ukraine, the connection that now we have with the ambassador, whom you'll have on the present later, we're very present on the wants and the urgency. And once more, we may have bipartisanship as we go ahead with it.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay. Madam Speaker, I need to discuss to you, in fact, about abortion. California's Governor, Gavin Newsom, stated Democrats have failed to focus on Republicans on this problem. Here is what he needed to say:
GAVIN NEWSOM: The place is the Democratic Get together? The place's the social gathering? Why are we calling this out? This can be a concerted, coordinated effort. And sure, they're successful. We have to rise up. The place's the counteroffensive?
MARGARET BRENNAN: Madam Speaker, why had been pro-abortion rights Democrats outmaneuvered?
SPEAKER PELOSI: I've- I don't know. The actual fact is that now we have been combating for a girl's proper to decide on, and that's to decide on. We now have been combating in opposition to the Republicans within the Congress continuously as a result of the actual fact is there- and never simply anti-woman's proper to decide on when it comes to terminating a being pregnant, however when it comes to entry to contraception and household planning and the remaining, each domestically and globally. This can be a fixed struggle that we have had for generations, many years, I ought to say in my case within the Congress and the- we had been bipartisan early on, assist for a girl's proper to decide on till the politics have modified. And that is what occurred with the courtroom. The science hasn't modified. They however the courtroom modified. And subsequently, they're deciding that it will likely be totally different. I don't know why anyone would make that assertion until they had been unaware of the struggle that has been happening.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Properly, you've been combating for many years on this problem. However again when Democrats held majorities within the Home and the Senate 2009, once you had been Speaker, President Obama was requested about codifying Roe versus Wade and stated abortion is a ethical and moral problem and, quote, not the very best legislative precedence. Do you suppose it was a mistake for him, for different presidents, to not push tougher when Democrats had the bulk?
SPEAKER PELOSI: If I simply could, the main focus now we have proper now could be an pressing one in an effort to attempt to improve- and attempt to enhance this whether or not we're calling it pretend or draft determination, no matter it's, I believe that this can be a waste of time. The actual fact is, in '09, we actually didn't have a pro-choice Democratic Get together. I needed to struggle in opposition to a number of the individuals who didn't need to move the Reasonably priced Care Act as a result of they had been involved that it'd allow extra freedom of selection. It actually did not go down that path. Proper now, we do have a pro-choice Democratic Congress and we handed the legislation a month in the past in final I believe September--
MARGARET BRENNAN: --You probably did within the Home--
SPEAKER PELOSI: --It has been some time, it's- numerous votes.
MARGARET BRENNAN: However the votes aren't there within the Senate.
SPEAKER PELOSI: Properly, the Senate is- you may have to speak to the Senate concerning the Senate. However I do suppose that it places an urgency on what's occurring within the election. Two more- one or two extra senators may sweep again the filibuster rule for this function, after which girls would have a proper to decide on. That is about one thing so critical and so private and so disrespectful of ladies. Right here we're on Mom's Day, per week the place the courtroom has slapped girls within the face when it comes to disrespect for his or her judgments concerning the dimension and timing of their households. So, the actual fact is, let's maintain our eye on the ball. The ball is within the courtroom of these justices. One in all them at the very least stated again and again that precedent- that president has been established repeatedly on Roe v Wade and that- so this determination is about being anti-precedent and anti-privacy and has critical ramifications as we go- as we go down this path and needs to be softened. And I do not suppose there is a good end result, however there's a greater end result so far as that is involved.
MARGARET BRENNAN: When it comes to the--
SPEAKER PELOSI: Let's simply be prayerful about this. That is- that is about respect for privateness. What's subsequent? What's subsequent? Marriage equality? What's subsequent, contraception?
MARGARET BRENNAN: Do that you must write payments to enshrine these issues? These belongings you simply stated you are involved about? Do you want payments to enshrine these now? Contraception access-
SPEAKER PELOSI: Excuse me?
MARGARET BRENNAN: The belongings you suppose is perhaps subsequent. Do that you must legislate to enshrine these in legislation proper now to guard them? In case you suppose the courtroom could overturn.
SPEAKER PELOSI: What is basically fascinating, Margaret, about that is for many years I have been making an attempt to say to my Republican buddies and girls who care a few lady's proper to decide on, who contribute to Deliberate Parenthood and all of these organizations, you'll be able to't do this and anticipate. You have to weigh in with your personal social gathering on this. Barbara Bush, early on, Republicans had been very a lot about household planning and respect for girls. So, the so the factor is, is that most individuals all the time thought that this debate within the Congress was concerning the termination of a being pregnant, however it wasn't. My Republican colleagues have stated to me once in a while, we're not for any household planning domestically or globally, as a result of I used to be making an attempt to get them to assist us on some international household planning points. We're not for any of it. And most of the people do not know that. And we might be you understand; this can be a truth. This can be a truth. That is what they consider.
MARGARET BRENNAN: However given the urgency of with which you are talking, the Reproductive Alternative Act to pro-abortion rights Republicans within the Senate, Susan Collins, and Lisa Murkowski. put that ahead. Chief Schumer says it is not even price placing to a vote. However once you do have Republicans enthusiastic about working collectively, is that a strategic mistake? You say that is an emergency.
SPEAKER PELOSI: Properly, it depends upon what the laws is and what the impression that it has on girls's lives. The- the enshrinement of Roe v. Wade into the legislation is the way in which in an effort to shield a girl's proper to decide on. I do not know why they are saying they're for that and cannot be for this laws. Ought to all of us have a dialogue and discover our frequent floor? At all times, all the time. However this 12 months, both for the enshrinement of Roe v Wade, otherwise you're not. It is the legislation of the land. 50 or practically 50 years of the precedents- precedents of it has been reaffirmed, what, 14 instances. And simply because there has been- the Republicans had been very clear once they had a presidential marketing campaign that their marketing campaign was to elect a president who would appoint judges, who would vote to overturn Roe v Wade. It did not say the science would change. And another level in that regard. Mitch McConnell pulled again the filibuster rule in an effort to have these justices confirmed by 51 by not needing 60 votes by 51. So, this can be a political determination on the a part of this- the rule of legislation in our nation ought to be revered. Girls ought to be revered to make their very own judgments with their household, their physician, their God.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Speaker Pelosi, thanks on your time this morning. FACE THE NATION. I will be again in a minute. Stick with us.